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In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2014 18:21:33 BDT
Last edited by the author on 25 Sep 2014 13:09:18 BDT
Mrs W Waugh says:
No as I said in my earlier post I already own them and have read them,some more that once too,I used to buy a lot of books but of late I havent bought anything.as I have enough to keep me going for quite a while so instead I review the books I have had for years and have read more than once too as well as DVD.s I have watched ,that includes films and series I have seen on TV too ...........

Posted on 16 Sep 2014 13:22:59 BDT
Mr Pen says:
Did you really mean to say that you review books before you actually read them?

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Sep 2014 10:53:05 BDT
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Mrs W Waugh says:
I only review things I know about,which are books and the odd DVD too,so as I read a lot, I review both the books I already own, and some I bought from Amazon , but I wouldnt review anything I havent yet read or watched either..............

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Sep 2014 01:27:04 BDT
Oldbiker says:
It seems to me that most negative votes,for book reviews at least, are "gained" because the voter disagrees with the reviewer's opinion rather than a comment on the usefulness or insight offered by their review.
Maybe if negative votes were only allowed if accompanied by a comment of say more than 20 words they would be more useful.That would at least mean negative voters would have to give a reason for their vote and with a minimum word requirement the temptation for someone to just post a few words of abuse would be removed.Maybe not a bad idea even for positive votes,ok so the vote totals would nosedive but at least the whole thing would be reactions and reasons to why someone liked or disliked a review rather than a popularity contest for a particular author. It can be galling to have a review you've taken time to right "negged" quite highly merely because you've dared to give your opinion that a popular author's latest book just might not be up to his or her usual standards.If you've taken the time to write a review surely it would be good if those who disagreed were required to say why rather than just sit back and click a button.

Posted on 15 Sep 2014 14:20:11 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jul 2014 13:28:57 BDT
I agree that this is the definition of cyber-bullying or harassment as you say.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jun 2014 21:56:21 BDT
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Posted on 7 Jun 2014 21:35:57 BDT
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Posted on 7 Jun 2014 21:25:07 BDT
Mr Pen says:
You are both missing my point. The use of the word "fake" was obviously a mistake. Feel free to substitute it for the word "second" or "sock puppet".

My point is that if you are going to criticise other people's behavior,and set yourself up as a police force, which is what Leveller has done, then you should at least have the decency to hold up your own reviewing activities for inspection, warts and all.

Now, it is possible that the person behind the Leveller id has never written any reviews on Amazon. If that is the case then he can have a well deserved apology. However, I find it hard to believe that somebody who didn't review on Amazon would care that much.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jun 2014 20:54:42 BDT
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Crookedmouth says:
You don't have to review here to post. You DO, however, have to have bought something from Amazon in order to post (I think).

So not having any reviews to your name doesn't make you a fake. It makes you a CUSTOMER.

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Posted on 7 Jun 2014 20:25:35 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 Jun 2014 20:26:03 BDT
Mr Pen says:
What is a fake id? Well, in the context of amazon reviews, a fake id is an id with no reviews. I don't mean your real name etc, just the id you use on Amazon. Your normal Amazon id.

Presumably Leveller has another id with which he reviews items. Yet nobody can scrutinise it, as he hides behind this id.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with a fake id either. But if you are going to go around policing the place, the rest of us should at least be able to see that you practice what you preach.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jun 2014 20:19:58 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 Jun 2014 20:21:01 BDT
Crookedmouth says:
I'll bite, Mr Pen. I have no axe to grind with you, but what constitutes a "fake id" in a community like this? We know as much about the Leveller as we do about you...

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jun 2014 20:04:44 BDT
Mr Pen says:
If somebody has an issue with a particular reviewer they should take it up with Amazon. Most people are sick of flame wars on the internet.

Posted on 7 Jun 2014 20:00:53 BDT
Mr Pen says:
Sorry, but if you have to hide behind a phony id before you criticise people, you aren't exactly dancing in the gardens of credibility.

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Posted on 7 Jun 2014 14:22:01 BDT
Sounds like Leveller needs a lie down.

Posted on 7 Jun 2014 11:21:11 BDT
Mr Pen says:
That was kind of my point. Had you posted a query about the saw on his review of a saw, then it would have been a legitimate comment. Instead, as the reviewer stated and you denied, you seemed to be harrassing him on his review page.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jun 2014 09:12:48 BDT
The Leveller says:
Hello Mr Pen
My comments have nothing to do with a saw as you can see.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jun 2014 09:06:37 BDT
Mr Pen says:
You have been leaving comments on his reviews Leveller:

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The Leveller says:
The chances of Baz not posting a review are a million to one, but still they come.

Come on then, post the vote Baz. I know it's killing you not to.
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Posted on 6 Jun 2014 23:50:18 BDT
The Leveller says:
Time is 23.47 and a negative vote has appeared on this review. Not by me at all either. Let's see if it gets washed away. The review is lacking in information for a top reviewer and this is a fair vote.

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What have your comments got to do with a saw?

Posted on 7 Jun 2014 08:57:08 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jun 2014 08:17:01 BDT
Bob says:
I wonder, this is something that I have just thought of, if turning off verified purchases effects anything as I notice you have this turned off. I have also noticed that when I show that I have received something free, I always state this on the first line of my review, I almost immediately get a negative vote. This also applies to Items I get through Vine.
So probably to reduce negative votes, Keep your head down, don't post on forums, don't take free gifts.
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