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Scrap the T.V. licence. Yes or no


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Initial post: 26 Dec 2012 22:48:26 GMT
Yes, definately.

Posted on 26 Dec 2012 22:55:44 GMT
Yes

Posted on 26 Dec 2012 23:20:52 GMT
I.N. says:
No

Posted on 27 Dec 2012 01:08:03 GMT
I say double the fee. (Well, ask a silly question, expect a silly answer!)

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Dec 2012 10:38:46 GMT
Tanya Rass says:
Its EASY.....All U.K. Televisions should be fitted with a 'SKY CARD' Type slot. BBC should issue a card which can be topped up each month say, a post office. No credit....No TV at all Simple. and that will stop the evaders in their tracks. P.S. it would only interrupt the receiver section of the electronics, it could still be legally used as a monitor.

Posted on 27 Dec 2012 16:54:14 GMT
promaboss says:
bbc is thew bewst tv still but i dont watch tv have discneected areals and delted channels on all mine i only use tv for watcgin dvd and blu ray which is perfectly legal to do wuithout licence providing you inform the tv licensing people and become a non linensed adress as i am

they will then stop hassling you for licence money

even when i had licence i olny was watvhing about 3 hours tv whole yr so when i found out i did not need a licence as i dont watrchg live tv then it made me make choice v

re tanya that will work for tv but what about your phone and pc if you watch live tv on any of these you still need licence

if you only watch catch up tv dvds vhs or b ray then not live tv so you dont

re vhs thats really providing you did not record off tv wehile you haver no licence as if you had it means you must of recorded live tv to do so

all my vhs are from yrs back so even if they did check oner look at adverts and other things tv licensing would see theyt were well old befor i stopped my licene paying

Posted on 27 Dec 2012 17:01:12 GMT
promaboss says:
so that wontr help if you watch any live tv but not everyone does i paid licence for sev yrs and then found to own a tv of any sort is not now tge requirement for a licenc

ok they couls accuse me of watching but would have to prove it and i cant prove i do or dont in reality but having no channels set up in tv and aerial long way away and no cables by tv any random check would have to take that on boards

ie we check his tvs none had channels set up and no arial cables and it was a random check so that i hope to court would be suffoice to prove me not watching and also they would have to check phoner and computer for child porn etc thats worthwhile money spent and the time too but i cant see tv licensing taing a phone and computer and paying for it to be thorughly checked for a 145 license the checking would cost thousands

and as said i dont watch live tv at all

so the advice is for those who dont watcg live tv on tv phone or pc laptop or ps3 etc

you dont need a licene even if watching through a tv

Posted on 27 Dec 2012 19:27:08 GMT
I would be prepared to say yes if they didn't waste it- see the millions paid to certain presenters, £450,000 payout to a resigning George Entwistle (equivalent to nearly 3093 TV license fees)- and less offensive stuff (like I recall Jerry Springer: The Opera was a few years back).

Thing is, what would be the alternative? Subscription-based services rarely make all of heir money from subscriptions, so we are left with either a. being funded by advertising (no thanks) or b. the American-style public TV model which seems to be a mixture of government funding, sponsorship (effectively a small amount of advertising) and fundraising (in other words, being constantly badgered for donations). Another suggestion I heard once is a cut-down BBC which maybe focuses on the stuff commercial services can't provide (so fewer channels), gets rid of things like some of its orchestras (rather counter to the first part but never mind) and so on.

I think it is a rather out-of-date way of funding the BBC especially given the iPlayer type online streaming services don't require a licence to watch, only "live" TV, and given there are so many alternatives to the BBC.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Dec 2012 00:16:13 GMT
Simon F. says:
Is'nt HBO a subscription service? Not sure but it is funded in some way like that and just look at the incredibly high quality drama they turn out; treating adult audiences like adults!

Posted on 28 Dec 2012 10:37:47 GMT
Scrap it. It hasn't the value for money....

Posted on 28 Dec 2012 11:09:57 GMT
P. M. Organ says:
yes

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Dec 2012 22:23:10 GMT
promaboss says:
some partsd of iplayer requre you to hve licence ie if you watch live news on computer via iplayer etc

and indeed any live tv of other companies in uk as well

so if watching any programme already aired on tv prior to streaming no licence is needed if however its live news or sport or something else live trhen licence is needed even if watching itv player etc same goes for live content on your phone anything live is licence anything not live no licence hence my only watching dvds blu ray and vhs as nothing for me the bbc heydays and all tv heydays was 70s and 80s and a bit here and there

certainly d=since 2000 its got much worse on all channels

i dont care about what happens in worlds or my locality so i dont watch news or read papers

i ignore the world its troo depressing 18 hrs a day dvd and blu ray

Posted on 1 Jan 2013 14:31:17 GMT
A. R. Long says:
No! Don't scrap the licence fee! Keep the BBC without paid-for adverts. The last thing I want to see are programmes like the 'Antiques Roadshow' or 'Countryfile' peppered with ghastly adverts for 20 minutes in every hour like all the ITV stations currently do. If the BBC ever went advert-mad like ITV have, I'd never watch my 42" Panasonic Veira tv ever again!

Posted on 1 Jan 2013 21:29:36 GMT
keep it , but cut staff and pay them less wages

Posted on 2 Jan 2013 12:37:52 GMT
R. A. Caton says:
If you want to know what BBC programmes would be like with endless advertising breaks...
watch Dave.

Posted on 2 Jan 2013 15:48:17 GMT
MadusMaximus says:
No. I like watching the BBC without adverts every 10 minutes and I love how they're always at the forefront of trying new things because they don't have to worry about annoying their advertisers by doing it. BBC digital radio for example wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the license fee, because the advertisers wouldn't bother getting on board because they don't see the adoption rates being that high. All commercial digital radio stations are either struggling or have failed, only the BBC has succeeded. They were also the first to do the digital switch over, again, because they didn't have to risk annoying their advertisers by having to foot the expensive bill.

So no. Keep it. The benefits far outweigh the cons if you're in any way interested in good quality media and having an organisation that actually pushes the boundaries on these things.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Jan 2013 15:56:16 GMT
MadusMaximus says:
That's all HBO do, they aren't also a news gathering organisation or a documentary making organisation or a R&D organisation. The BBC does a LOT more than make TV programmes, you should really go and look at just how many things your license fee goes towards, you'd be amazed. Can you imagine the Olympic Games coverage without the BBC? Breaks every 5 mins like in the US just before or during an event? The BBC was the envy of the world for their coverage of the games, people broke the law to watch their coverage because it was superior to what their commercially run networks at home offered.

Posted on 2 Jan 2013 18:26:54 GMT
John Gammon says:
For some reason, the UK licence fee works. I'm very happy to pay it - what you get for your money is almost incredible. It's worth it for the news alone. In fact, it's worth it for the pips. I've travelled in many countries, and there's no better media network than the BBC. Yes, there's a lot of trash on all channels, but every day there's something that opens your mind. This does not mean that I enjoy every programme I see on the BBC - in fact I watch very little BBC TV. I also think that the BBC should not be competing in the field of trash TV, because this is not justifiable under a licence fee system. But what I do watch I like. Those who don't want to pay it seem to think that the choice is between the licence fee and free television, but there's no such thing as the latter. Every time you buy anything that's advertised on TV, some of the price is going to pay for that.

Posted on 3 Jan 2013 15:37:45 GMT
Sou'Wester says:
Giving any organisation blanket public funding for running a multi-faceted broadcasting service such as the BBC is totally wrong. There are any number of cultural, artistic, sporting and entertainment facilities in our country - many giving much better and more worthwhile provision - that are struggling for survival because of lack of funds. Where they are able to access public funds, they often have to jump through all manner of hoops and endlessly bureaucratic processes to obtain what is often just a pittance. By contrast the BBC is given millions of pounds to push out stuff, most of which would never warrant public funding if it came from any other source. There is a place for public funding in broadcasting but nowhere near on the scale we have now. The licence fee is neither a fair nor efficient method of paying for TV; all the money that is wasted on collection and policing would be far better spent on programmes themselves.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jan 2013 16:51:39 GMT
J. Blackburn says:
YES...DEFINITELY!
There's nothing on tv these days worth watching!
I suppose it's ok if you're in to reality shows or soaps etc, but if you're not in to that rubbish then it's just a waste of money.
There's not even any good films to watch anymore.
I scrapped mine when I worked out I didn't even watch 1 hour a week. What a waste!
I just use mine for watching dvds now. I've seen nothing on tv that didn't come out on to dvd eventually.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jan 2013 16:58:42 GMT
@Tanya Rass

This could easily be exploited.

Just remove TV License. People can watch TV online for free now anyway, so what's the point in it?

Posted on 3 Jan 2013 17:01:41 GMT
Besides, the AD breaks give you a perfect time to go to the loo, make a cuppa, feed the pets, put the kids to bed, even have a family discussion or play a small game.

Otherwise, you would need Sky + to pause the programme which disrupts it for everyone else watching.

Just remove the license fee and let us pay for the channels we want.

Posted on 3 Jan 2013 17:09:59 GMT
Susie G says:
I'm really fed-up with people who'll happily fork out £60+ per month to the diabolical Murdoch empire without judgement and yet moan about the comparably tiny licence fee. The BBC is the only UK broadcaster that doesn't have to pander to advertisers in order to make programmes and report on the news in an unbiased way. It has something to suit just about everyone and the quality of programming is excellent. I would probably not own a TV at all if there were no BBC channels as the majority of the other channels are largely un-watchable. Much of the imported stuff is drivel and, whilst acknowledging that some American programme makers do actually do a good job, they are pitifully few and are highly specialised, and are at the mercy of market forces and subject to change at any time; the good stuff is like the rarest of pearls in a sea of slime! I agree that the issue of excessive pay needs to be tackled - after all, why should a nice face, eloquent turn of phrase and a quick wit be worth so much more than a life-saving NHS A&E surgeon or a highly skilled and talented teacher?

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jan 2013 17:42:22 GMT
promaboss says:
they may watchy tv online for free but in reality if its anyting live they are legally bound to have a licence

same goes with mobile phone

the law on tv licence is its needed for any live tv be it phone computer or tv

as said i dont use tv for anything but a monitor to watch my b ray vhs and dvd through this means i dont need licence

as i dont watch tv at all except if round parents fdor a few mins between more dvds etc

but on computer live tv means licence needed

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jan 2013 17:49:35 GMT
promaboss says:
same here i watch no tv and if i finf sometyhing may interest me i wait till its on dvd and try it out

and as tv is not bering used for live tv then no licence is needed but to be safe its only reallyh legal if you advise tv liceninsiong the form is online and you state you want to be a non licensed adress and say why etc

i backed mine up with emails to tv licensing asking questions re my set up iew 3 tvs all able to have freeview on them but all wiped and areals disconnected and only connectred to video dvd b ray and was assured i would be accepted as non licensed for 2 yrs witgh possible check visit that so far has never happend nearly at end of first two yrs so will apply again later this yr

so i am a non licensed adress so it pees me off when i want a tv to buy some shops make me fill in a form to send to tv licensing what a load of crap

i said to therm why dont you do same form for mobile phone and pc laptop sales and they said you dont need a licence for them and i said you do for watching live tv and most phone and all computers allow live tv
the shop also said you needd licence as its a tv i said look at there tv license website you will find you do not

iots only for live tv and me buying a new tv does not mean i am watching live tv does it same as buying a phone with internet or laptop etc and no one make us doi a form to send to tv licensing for thsat do we
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