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Posted on 23 Oct 2011 16:04:29 BDT
I do not own stocks of Apple or Microsoft, but I am sick and tired of Mac people bashing the PC. The majority of the complainers complain about viruses. Simple: the majority download music or videos illegally, full of viruses because they do not even bother check the size of the file they are downloading, they install hacked software on their PCs, check their bank accounts, watch XXX movies in Flash and other not so great formats, etc; and on their pristine Macs, they listen to music from their Itunes store, and maybe check e-mails.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Oct 2011 09:40:42 BDT
completely bias post with no technical aspects behind it for one noone bothers to make a virus for macs seeing how i think its %7.13 now they own of the marketshare while windows owns still around %90 i mean the point of a virus is simple 1. to get to peoples private info 2. just to ruins someones day 3. any other reason the fact is macs are insanely simple to make viruses for i did one in my 8th grade computer class cause macs never update their os for reason i stated above they dont have to also ur statement "Mac do all that Windows does and more but without the fuss and angst" is completely idiotic in every way. 1. its the other way around 2. software available to both is like comparing an aircraft carrier to a canoe speaking in library size. 3. u can put mac os on pc so technicaly u can buy a $500 pc and put mac on it for free and the hardware will be the same as a $1400 mac also $50 kapersky or bitdefender and commen sense= no viruses and so called fuss and angst.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Oct 2011 09:42:38 BDT
"macs do it all better" pffffft and canoes are a match for an aircraft carrier

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Oct 2011 09:46:30 BDT
ur an idiot ur first point descredit you i build my own pcs with 20 gigs of ram over clocked 4.9 ghz processor and 12 tb of storage and you know what spent $1800 u know nothing bout computers

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Oct 2011 14:09:10 BDT
No, sir. This is not the place to exhibit my credentials, but, believe me, I have them. My comment is based on my experience with clients with PC and clients with Macs, and clients with both. I totally agree with your comment, though.

Posted on 25 Oct 2011 21:19:33 BDT
Tom Corney says:
In my opinion, as a physical machine; Mac's offer convenience, PC's offer potential.
Obviously from an OS/software point of view, it depends on what you are using your machine for and your personal personal preference, more than any inherent superiority.

Posted on 2 Nov 2011 05:46:06 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2011 18:35:58 GMT
Macs are ultimately the best computer today. They don't require as much upkeep as PCs do, also as they are not as common as PCs there are significantly fewer viruses made for Macs.

I find the software took me a little to get used to, but personally it runs a lot smoother than a computer, there ingenious methods in a Mac that are not available in a PC. When i owned a PC i found that there used to always be a problem either with hardware or software. Mac has a lot of special features that PCs do not have, for example if for some reason in a Macbook a disc becomes stuck inside the drive there are specific techniques to release it, which are unbelievably useful. Plus you can also get Microsoft for Mac, so if you prefer using excel or word then you are set!

There may be games on a PC, but you can download free applications onto your Mac, which are actually great!

But it also depends on what you would use it for, ideally Mac are great for more scientific uses, writing and media. Whereas PCs are better for gaming, schoolwork and general business upkeep.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Dec 2011 11:02:51 GMT
louise says:
if you search you can get a macbook for about 700, i type this on a mac that cost me 650!! on amazon! plus the only thing that mac os lacks is the ability to play pc games :( other than that GET IT!!!!

Posted on 21 Dec 2011 15:03:56 GMT
Last edited by the author on 21 Dec 2011 15:21:36 GMT
Applemad says:
I use PC's at work (with a macbook as my laptop) and Mac's at home (with an xbox360 to play games online) and if I could only choose between a PC or a Mac then it would be a mac every time.

In 7 years of using a mac I can hand on heart say I've only ever had 1 (yes one!!) system hang, and that was actually caused because I was using Windows under parallels which decided to crash (god knows how as it's meant to be sandboxed, so perhaps a hardware lock!?) .

I've used PC's for years and still do at work, but inevitably I still have to reboot and restore occasionally, even with all the latest patches, updates and virus protection.

Both PC and Mac's will do the job, but don't be swayed into believing macs are incompatible and won't talk to other PC's, share files or anything like that, nowadays you can have the two co-exist in pretty much perfect harmony with each other.

Also don't be swayed ever by comparing hardware like for like against each other, it's more than hardware, it's how the hardware is linked and put together, I used to build my own custom PC's but they never worked as flawlessley as the way OSX integrates with the Apple hardware, let's remember that if it were down to pure hardware then the PS3 should beat the Xbox 360 hands down, but actually in certain tests when you see them benchmarked together the Xbox surprisingly holds its own due to the clever design and how the components and OS work in harmony.

Lastly I just love how tactile Mac's are, I can't quite put my finger on it but there is something just 'so sweet' about using a mac.

Ultimately if price is an issue then value for money I'd go for a PC, but if you want quality then go for the mac, it's like a Ford or a Rolls Royce, they both have wheels, seats, a steering wheel, aircon and will get you from A to B, but the Roller is not just a journey, it's an experience and using a mac gives you that same inner glow.

(And if you really are flush and can't do without windows then you can install it on all modern mac's, best of both worlds then, but OSX is worth persisting with, it's flawless and almost virusless)

P.S Just for the record I've worked in the IT industry since the days of OS2 and Windows version 2.0 and currently administer Linux based web servers too, so I'm fairly technically minded, what I express is just an opinion, but as you can see from my username I went mac and never went back (apart from work when I have no!)

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Dec 2011 15:16:02 GMT
Applemad says:
Sorry wrong on the upgrading score in your history lesson, I bought an iMac 5 years ago with 1gb of ram and a 320Gb hard drive, it took me 20 minutes to upgrade it to 6GB or RAM and 2TB hard drive, and for the record IBM may have created the 1st PC (although actually there were PC's running a while before MS-DOS was launched) but Apple created the 1st GUI based PC (windows), check Wikipedia for the dates and you will see I'm right


In reply to an earlier post on 21 Dec 2011 15:23:55 GMT
Applemad says:
@Louise, if you really want to play PC games just dual boot the mac with windows (although it does then open you up to virus risks) as I've seen benchmarks which actually show the Mac laptop in question running windows better than a non-Apple laptop of similar hardware specification.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Dec 2011 02:34:50 GMT
Richard says:
While you can upgrade the memory easily on the current iMac, please don't read this thread and assume you can do the same for the hard drive. To upgrade a current iMac hard drive is NOT a simple process, and Apple don't make it at all easy (they would prefer you took it to an Apple store and pay them to do so).

The iMac is still a good machine, but like all things Apple, is not really designed for user upgrade or repair... For the flexibility to add to and extend your machine the PC remains the better more flexible choice.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Dec 2011 07:51:27 GMT
Applemad says:
It IS a simple process, mine is an aluminium iMac where th glass Pulls out the same as the current models, loads of YouTube videos showing how, 20 minute job, with approximately 9-10 screws, I used my iMac as an example, if people have mac towers or laptops then then in most cases it's even easier to upgrade hard drives than on a conventional windows based machine, seriously!!

Posted on 22 Dec 2011 07:58:02 GMT
Last edited by the author on 22 Dec 2011 08:11:09 GMT
Applemad says:
And yes of course apple would prefer u to take it back to upgrade, just as PC world would, and as many people do. The point is that if u are capable of upgrading a non apple PC then you will find even an iMac isn't too taxing, and if u have never done one the I would suggest whilst your opinion is welcome, it's not the same as being valid. Remember that techie people ( I include myself) have a tendency to think that anyone can upgrade a normal PC, the reality is that most people look inside a PC and think its some kind of black magic. All I'm saying is that people who are confident enough to do a normal PC, once they know how the case opens, will find an iMac no more difficult, in fact upgrading is simpler with time machine because transferring the data and program's on to the new hard drive can be done with the standard backup software, no need to buy any extra software to clone the drive, with a mac it's part of the operating system so shifting the data is just a few clicks and the backup restores to the new drive from your external backup drive, job done ;-)

Posted on 26 Dec 2011 18:10:35 GMT
Oli says:
if your rich and dont care about performance, go for a mac. If you have some time on your hands to google up ways to speed up windows (which is effort, yes, but it pays off) then you will have twice performance for half the price. all the 'reliable benchmark tests' that show a similar specced PC compared to a mac usually either don't bother to even try to speed up the PC, so in the test it runs slower than the mac. I've watched them, I know. They also, in almost 90% of Benchmarks use vista as the PC representative OS. Come on, even windows users know Vista sucks! A similar specced PC to a mac will cost half as much, and will run faster if you just take the time to learn about your system! That time is better than the extra money spent on a mac!

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Dec 2011 16:58:14 GMT
Mark Sweeney says:
Spot on.

The iMac is not built to be upgraded by the user, purely for the fact users who want easy upgradability are more likely to go with a Mac Pro. And how many users average users really want to upgrade their hard drive?

However, that is not the same as saying it can't be done, if you know what you're doing.

Posted on 9 Jan 2012 16:15:25 GMT
Im sure this has been mentioned before many times but if its only OSX your interested in and not the shinyness of a mac you can easily just load the OS onto any machine. Google is your friend on that one.

Posted on 14 Jan 2012 13:02:52 GMT
Last edited by the author on 14 Jan 2012 13:06:15 GMT
<OOoOo> says:
Macs are generally built with better quality cases and components. Apart from the optical drives and the batteries, they normally last for several years more than most PCs.

Mac software is written to run on Mac motherboards, so it is 100% compatible. Windows is written to run on a huge variety of motherboards and other components, so it is not always 100% compatible with your system.

You can uninstall stuff from Windows and use a large variety of software to clean up and optimize the system to ensure you're running at full speed. Windows 7 sounds like a significant improvement, if you know to avoid the various scams in the windows world ("Security" software) you may be OK.

But on the whole, you get what you pay for. You can get more raw power for less money with a well-chosen PC, but i may not last as long or be as trouble-free as a Mac.

In my 15 years of using Macs, I have never lost data due to a Mac software issue, neither have I had much downtime because of problems with the Mac software. NO VIRUSES or other crap. Few windows users can make similar claims.

You can upgrade and service Macs yourself if you're handy with small screwdrivers and small screws. Look at the excellent guides at, all you need is there.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jan 2012 16:51:38 GMT
Applemad says:
Yes you can do that, and break the law, as it's illegal to put OSX on any other hardware than an Apple product, so by all means do it of you are the kind of person who also steals windows software rather than buy a legal version, perhaps thats another problem thats widespread with windows based systems, software piracy, Apple software is generally pretty cheap, so I;ve never found the need to steal it...

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jan 2012 19:50:09 GMT
Richard says:
Changing iMac gard drives is NOT a simple process for the vast majority of non technical computer users - removing the entire glass panel and LCD screen is not what most users would be comfortable with. Add to that the fact that Apple have changed the hard drive cabling in the new 2011 iMac's, so that changing the drive for any non Apple sourced drive will fail the diagnostics and cause the cooling fans to run at full speed, again makes home user drive changes very difficult. (this is widely documented on the web). Just to make the point, I like Mac's and own several, but you have to be realistic about their faults as well as benefits.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jan 2012 21:20:16 GMT
Just because Apple doesn't let you doesn't mean it's illegal. If you buy the software they put out it's up to you how you use it isn't it? Oh and for the record I've never pirated windows or any of its software, despite perfectly having the capabilities to do so.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jan 2012 21:27:05 GMT
Last edited by the author on 16 Jan 2012 21:32:11 GMT
Applemad says:
for the record, it IS illegal, it actually says in the terms if you bother to read them that it can only be installed on Apple hardware, so check your facts ... thats why people use hackintosh versions, because the legal versions actually check for hardware based serial numbers, hackintosh versions of the OS have had this security illegally removed, because again if you read the terms of license when you purchase OSX it also clearly states you cannot reverse engineer the software, which you have to do to remove the hardware serial number check, this is what makes hackintosh versions illegal.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jan 2012 21:29:57 GMT
Last edited by the author on 16 Jan 2012 21:34:01 GMT
Terms of service are not law. You can not be sued and sent to prison for breaching them.

Edit: and it's up to me what i want to do with software (or hardware) I legally purchased.
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