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Posted on 8 Apr 2012 22:06:28 BDT
R. Kroell says:
Spin, you think too much in the wrong direction!
A new born child is young. A 95 year old adult is old. Both consist of star dust, or atoms builded shortly after the bing bang.
But the child came to extistence not long ago. Or will you argue that the child was created with the big bang?
"Was the eath complete when it was molten, irregular rock? Or was it complete when it harboured life?"
Those are two different things. We have the formation of the earth, and later on, development of life. It says the "age of the earth" and the "beginning of life", two very different things.
"bOth arguments rely on personal conceptions of the measurement of motion which is specific only to earth."
That shows me again, that you have not understand Einsteins work you are reffering to at all.
"Nothing in this universe is "young"."
So you for your self think that you are 13,8 billion years old?
No, not you, but the matter you are build of.
Or was there a floating Spin some 13,7 billion years ago?
Like a bad cook, you put everything in a pot and you are wondering why does it taste like droppings.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Apr 2012 20:42:14 BDT
Totally well said, RK.

Posted on 9 Apr 2012 21:38:34 BDT
R. Kroell says:
Well Spin can test his claim by himself. He can eat old food, for there is no old and young. It is all old.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Apr 2012 12:46:02 BDT
And this post says absolutley nothing about anything spin.

Everyone knows this, everyone considers this and we dotn feel the need to explain it in a post, whcih I ahve to say for once does add nothing to this discussion.

You are aware of what we discuss, your point is truly irrelevant to that discussion.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Apr 2012 12:49:12 BDT
Time is entropy i.e. Universal We do measure our time based on Solar cycles, why not?

So lets say is the Earth in a fully formed format i.e. early life thousands of solar cycles ago, or Millions.

The answer is millions as we have shown, end of!

The path you have taken creates no new avenues for discussion and instead is simply playing devils advocate which you so enjoy.

How do you measure time Spin

Posted on 10 Apr 2012 12:50:49 BDT
To further add to what SPIN says, nothing in that counters the arguments made in the list emailed that not only the earth, but the whole universe is <1000 years old. You merely assert it.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Apr 2012 12:52:15 BDT
The atoms currently in Spins body may not have even existed 13.7 Billion of Years ago, but been other atoms and particles whcih were then shattered reformed and completely changed during suprnovae and star formation

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Apr 2012 12:54:27 BDT
You referring to me RD, if so I was not trying to show that in any of my replies. simply stating that spins take on things was irreevant to this discussion, I have posted many responses to this thread already, some were corrcet, some were not for the rest I have no idea LOL

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Apr 2012 12:57:42 BDT
No, no CJ. Just admonishing Spin in general. Adding to the discussion of how useless/irrelevant a poster he can choose to be from time to time.

I'm aware many people have posted useful contributions. I have also found a set of full rebuttals to the list which I'll link at some point.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Apr 2012 13:04:41 BDT
R. Kroell says:
Yeah, I know.
Most of the heavier atoms in our solar system were made from an "older" sun. You need special environments mit a lot of pressure and heat to make heavier elements.
But one can state that the energy and matter that is needed ws formed during or shortly after the BB.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Apr 2012 14:21:13 BDT
Yeah that would be good actually, education and all that.

Spins an enigma, he can occasionally seem completley rational and cohernet and then all of a sudden he posts somthing which you simply have to wonder why he felt the need to use energy hitting the keys.

Hence why so many people have him on ignore but read his posts anyway like me LOL

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Apr 2012 20:02:55 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 11 Apr 2012 10:45:06 BDT
Last edited by the author on 11 Apr 2012 10:46:30 BDT
There is no argument from you Spin, nothing to comment on, you are trying to twist something out of nothing, we understand Universal time, Time and space and Human time zones are all completely different.

Lets simply call it a measurement tool and be done with it.

In that instance the measurement fom young earth creationists is wrong and miscalculated.

Happy, or do we have to have another dance around semantics and Language use?

and as to justifying Time Zones, please explain why they are "Unjust" LOL

I take it the 9 months thing is from the point the egg was fertilised hm, very intelligent spin, how you have impressed me there, yes none of us ever considered this before, OMG I am really already 34.

Again the relevance of your points here are not merely non existent within this discussion, but the points themselves are probably only relevant in a discussion between 2 stoners and a really big spliff.

Nice work

Posted on 11 Apr 2012 14:28:23 BDT
R. Kroell says:
I am 9 months older?
Does this mean I have to work nine months less?
And what about babies, born in the 7th or 8th month?
Or should we count the time when the sperm and the female egg was formed, too?
And what about the time my body needs to decompose?
Is that added, too?
And time zone are a mess. We should have the same time in all regions of this planet.
But were should we draw the line?
Greenwich?

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Apr 2012 14:34:51 BDT
Whats wrong with time Zones?

Ok everyone should be same as UK so...(Since its greenwich LOl)

So Americans and everyone West has to have an extra big lie in one day and everyone East will ahev to work a double day to catch up.

WE wont do anything, we are British after all Toff toff

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Apr 2012 14:45:27 BDT
Changing what we label the times doesn't change when you get up, just what it's called. It's why I object to this nonsense idea about daylight savings time, just make things start earlier or later as appropriate, I like sun in the evening, you liek sun in the morning, let's move our days, not everbody elses

Posted on 11 Apr 2012 14:51:28 BDT
Yes I suppose it could work, but I think the common man would be confused and annoyed would such a thing to happen.

Also it would ve cool to Have New Years day all at the same time. but for some people it would be half 6 in the morning (Daylight wise, not what it says on your watch) That'd be a pisser.

Also and far more importnatly.

How the Hell would Santa manage to get round the whole Earth without Time zones, He have to have some presents delivetred on what was officially X mas Eve and some on Potentially Boxing Day.

Think of the Children RD

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Apr 2012 14:54:57 BDT
Point made, timezones make sense because we want days to be consistent...

Posted on 11 Apr 2012 15:00:08 BDT
We are creatures of Habit, its in our DNA

Posted on 11 Apr 2012 15:02:26 BDT
Habit isn't in ourdna

Around is, so is Duo Ran, but Habit isn't even close. Habit is in "I bath" though.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Apr 2012 15:23:07 BDT
Habit is a sheep...

It Bah

Posted on 11 Apr 2012 15:41:18 BDT
a sheep is incontinent it

has pee

Posted on 11 Apr 2012 15:45:16 BDT
You the know the Earth may not be young but the night is.

whenever I read this thread I think of

"The night is young, but I am not"

Whenever I say this I say it in a chinese accent, and I suume its because it was from some movie, but I can never remeber.

Anyhoo, I'll get my coat.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Apr 2012 15:46:44 BDT
A sheep is surpisingly a she ape did you know?

Who would its hardly obvious, white wool, black fur and all that.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Apr 2012 15:50:28 BDT
It's funny because when i'm wet, white wool is how i towel.
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