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Initial post: 11 May 2009 17:54:21 BDT
AJ says:
Really liked it - (mostly) well cast, good plot and action setpieces. Most realistic CG seen in the series - much better than the CG in Nemesis! Not totally convinced about the alternate reality aspect but overall excellent
Any views? Anyone not like it?

Posted on 11 May 2009 21:41:04 BDT
The alternate reality bit was sheer genius ,perfect eat your cake and have it solution .

In reply to an earlier post on 11 May 2009 23:15:47 BDT
Doc Benway says:
Yeah, loved it. Came out with a big smile on my face.
Going back a couple of years , I was a bit sad when Paramount broke up the writing and production crew after Enterprise, which had got better in the last couple of seasons.
However, giving it to Mr Abrams is looking like a stroke of genius. Definitely a fresh approach to iconic characters and I think Gene Roddenberry woulda been proud.

Posted on 11 May 2009 23:48:02 BDT
I really enjoyed the new Star Trek film. The alternate universe aspect was brilliant and, I think, necessary for the franchise to continue. The new film doesn't invalidate the older shows, they're still there for watching, but it means that new viewers can hop onboard without having to know several centuries' worth of back-story.
The characters, action, funny moments, special effects were all great but I do think that there were a few things that weren't perfect.

Nero and the `bad guys' were, well, calling them one-dimensional would probably be generous. They were only there as a threat to be faced and had no characterisation of their own. The plot would have been served equally well by cardboard cut-outs with 'bad guy' written on them. This was a bit surprising because in the four-issue comic book prequel, `Star Trek: Countdown' there was a lot of characterisation and back story but very little, almost none, of this was reflected in the film. I don't think the film would have suffered from a little bit more screen time for the Romulans, especially if it explained where they were for the twenty-five years they were out of sight in the 23rd century.

Chekov's accent - very irritating. It slipped over the edge into parody.

Then there was the massively blatant and utterly shameless product placement - first Nokia and then Budweiser. Both instances jarred badly, ruining the flow of the film and it was so out of place. So far as I can think (I wait to be corrected) Star Trek has never shown branded products at all, real or imaginary. Could have happily done without this.

Still, overall it is really enjoyable and, hopefully a new start for the franchise.

Posted on 12 May 2009 23:23:10 BDT
jony_darko says:
I f*cking hated it. Sorry I was so desperate to love it but I hated it. Dr McCoy was a tw*t, Chekov was irratating as ****, Scotty??? and Kirk was a god dam frat boy. Why does this franchise constantly resort to time travel and parrallel universes? I can understand in the olden days when budget constraints deemed it necessary but come on think of something new.

On the plus side thought Spok was good, Uhura was cany hot and loved the new laser blasters all over the Enterprise.

Posted on 13 May 2009 01:54:53 BDT
Great film, and a rarely used time travel movie. Showing it from the other side, the point of view of the characters in the "present" trying to deal with all the mayhem caused by annoying time travellers. A perfect way to get in the, much needed, new audience (fans) AND give a blank canvas to a series that has been hamstrung for years by an ever decreasing vocal minority, more concerned with following an increasing set of rules (aKA cannon) than seeing good films. Now we can truly go where no one has gone before without the handcuffs.

Also good to see Trek getting the blockbuster budget it hasn't had since The Motion Picture back in 1979.

Posted on 13 May 2009 12:54:56 BDT
N. P. Cook says:
Personally, I thought Karl Urban (McCoy) was totally spot on to DeForest Kelley with his mannerisms, emotions and moods.

I loved the film!

Posted on 13 May 2009 17:52:35 BDT
ST1981 says:
I thought this film was excellent.
J J Abrams and his team did a super job in bringing Star Trek back.
The casting was spot on. Karl Urban played McCoy brilliantly, totally reminded my of DeForest Kelley.
The film took elements from the Star Trek world (Time Travel, Alternate Universe) & molded into a fresh new image both for Star Trek fans and Non Trekkers.

Posted on 13 May 2009 17:52:40 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2009 08:37:16 BDT
Last edited by the author on 14 May 2009 08:41:20 BDT
D. Bezzina says:
Liked it apart from one thing, the totally run of the mill music score (wasn't bad), they really missed a trick by leaving out the original theme or version of. and yep Karl Urban was excellent playing one of the most difficult characters to recreate.

Posted on 14 May 2009 08:49:44 BDT
B. Vorland says:
Loved pretty much every minute. Would have liked to see more of the bad guys, though, to really understand them. But Eric Bana was really good in the scenes he had. Especially loved: Zachary Quinto as Spock, Uhura, Kirk.. well the whole cast really. And maybe I'm just blind, but I didn't notice any product-placement! Not so great: the Romulans. Didn't realise they WERE Romulans until half way through when Kirk said something about them. They didn't look anything like the Romulans I remember from the shows. I especially loved the humour in the film, laugh out loud funny!!

Posted on 14 May 2009 11:31:10 BDT
Paul Tapner says:
superb stuff, and the best pilot episode they've ever made. it was exactly what the franchise needed. I really liked chekov. Sulu could have done with a little more to do. wasnt sure about scotty at first because he initially came over like simon pegg playing billy connolly playing scotty but then I got used to him. Maybe it wasnt the strongest story ever but being a pilot episode - as it were - that didnt really matter. looking forward to seeing where they go next

Posted on 14 May 2009 11:50:52 BDT
Mr. C. Evans says:
Superb film, accomplished what it set out to do - essential re-invigorate the franchise. Not just for the fans but introducing theses iconic characters and Gene Rodenberry's universe to a whole new audience in an age when science fiction is becoming more mainstream, exciting sexy and cool whilst not betraying the spirit and soul of Star Trek.

The alternate reality was the only (ahem) logical decision and I fully support it. The cast was great and I was particularly pleased with Karl Urban's immpresionistic take on McCoy - there was no other way to do justice to the character in my opinion. Chris Pine totally embodies Kirk without any Shatner mimicry and Zachary Quinto the right choice for Spock, he gets what the character is about and what drives him. Anton Yelchin's heavy Russian accent was a little grating though (he should have restrained it a little a la Walter Koenig) but still provided some light relief together with Simon Pegg's Scotty.

The effects were fantastic as were the sets, the story worked rather well (I agree with Paul's comments about it being like a very good pilot episode). All in all its great to see Star Trek return in such an explosive and exciting manner, can't wait for the inevitable sequel!

Posted on 14 May 2009 11:53:12 BDT
Spockmum says:
My dog is named Spock, how could I not love it? Seriously, I enjoyed it a lot. The CG was excellent, casting very good especially Spock (both), McCoy ('Dammit Jim, I'm only a doctor!) and Scotty. The plot and dialogue were quite fast-moving and the humour was not forced.
Hope they follow it up!

In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2009 18:08:29 BDT
Maddison says:
yeah i enjoyed it, agree with you on the alternate reality part, that was when i gave up any hope of it being clever and rolled my eyes, but the casting was good, cgi awesome, well paced etc. but the hand to hand fighting was hilariously bad! really slow fighting with god awful editing to disguise it lol, anyone else notice that?

In reply to an earlier post on 15 May 2009 03:13:30 BDT
The product placement was...
1) The Nokia phone, including the standard ringtone, while the young Kirk was driving the car and...
2) Uhura ordering Budweiser in the bar where Kirk tries to pick her up.

Fair enough though. Maybe it was just me being overly sensitive to these things.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 May 2009 16:38:52 BDT
Jonathan Day says:
I completly agree with you about enterprise. how they could cancel the series after the masterful season 3. although the season 4 episodes were exellent in there own righto the season overall felt like they were winding down to end of the series.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2009 00:00:53 BDT
Last edited by the author on 18 May 2009 21:23:04 BDT
just watched it and thought it was great and the cast were well placed and as for Urban well everything ive ever seen him in hes been good but he must have watched ALL star trek back catalogue to get certain De Forest manarisms spot on
As for Chekov accent well if you watch early episodes of the original trek series he is speaking english with heavy russian bela lugosi style accent as "vou vite hexpect!"
The tie ins with the series were good and any fan would pick them up from Sulu saying hes a fencer, Scottie and Archers dog but the biggest being the addage of Captain Pike all be it so far without the YES / NO davros chair!(so far)
Not to mention the Kobayashi maru or Kirk in the sack with green girl !

more i think about it why not have a russian play a russian or a scott play a scott - after all you wouldnt have a white woman blacked up to play Uhura or someone made up to look asian

My only gripes with it would be
1, the romulans didnt do a great deal much like Nemesis i think they need to be spice up the bad guys, i know that they dont look like romulans but they have changed from series to series the did once have goaties!
2, The ice planet could have been Rora Pente
3, Spock & Uhura
4, Peggs scottie was like watching Spud from Trainspotting

i guess you cant please every one all the time!!!!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2009 21:38:12 BDT
Last edited by the author on 18 May 2009 21:40:16 BDT
D. Porter says:
Interesting points, but I think I can help to clarify a few things on your gripe list:
1: The Romulans appearance was altered to distinguish them from the Vulcans and to make them seem isolated from other Romulans.
2: A) Rura Penthe is in a different quadrant and B) there's a deleted scene with Nero at Rura Penthe between 2233 (Kirk's birth) and 2258 (Enterprise comissioning) showing how he lost part of his right ear (It was bitten off).
3: The Spock/Uhura romance was more to show that Spock wasn't yet totally in control of his emotions, than anything else.
4: Amanda Grayson is very much alive during the Original Series and Movies (Journey to Babel + STIV: The Voyage Home), Sybok's imagery was simply to show Sarek's disdain at having a mixed-breed child.
5: Simon Pegg intentionally played the part the way he did as a tribute to James Doohan, whose son Chris gave high praise for his performance. Same goes for Chekov actor, Anton Yelchin, with regards to Walter Koenig.

I also noticed the sign at the transporter room read: M-311 - an obvious reference to Planet M-113 from 'The Man Trap' which was the first ever episode to be broadcast.

I found the movie itself to be absolutely fantastic, but I guess I would say that being a huge Trek fan (anyone else watched all 726 episodes and the 11 movies?)

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2009 22:30:02 BDT
AJ says:
Back to back???

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2009 11:43:44 BDT
Last edited by the author on 19 May 2009 13:41:37 BDT
D. Porter says:
Not exactly... Obviously I had to go to work, eat, sleep and all the other necessary breaks. I was however watching about eight to ten episodes a day except of course the animated series which was all in one day and the films which I watched sporadically through the run. I started mid November and finished around valentines day. Aside from the latest film, which I saw last Saturday. At the time I joked to my friends that I was now in the '737 club'.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2009 18:45:46 BDT
as you can see i have previously RETRACTED that somewhat quick passing gripe with regards Spocks mum ! !
( im eating a slice of humble pie right now!, with romulan ale )
Theres just something about pegg in this movie that just doesnt do it for me personally, dont get me wrong hes good in MI:3 etc it just seem that the characters looked or seemed to be early examples of their later incarnations where Doohan had a full head of hair and pegg im afraid to say doesnt

Overall though a fantastic movie that will take some beating to be best of the year

Posted on 19 May 2009 21:42:25 BDT
jony_darko says:
I thought the whole thing came across as a bunch of actors doing bad impressions.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2009 22:27:36 BDT
LEP says:
Haven't seen it as yet, but all the reviews I've read were good. Apparantly, the actor playing Scottie is a bit naff though.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2009 22:50:33 BDT
LEP, dont make too much of reviews or what both myself or others on here might say the only way is to go and watch for yourself and make your own mind up
trust me theres nothing worse than listening to someones opinion then missing out on what you might consider a good movie to see on big screen
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