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Initial post: 24 Jan 2009 03:09:04 GMT
OK...this is the first thread I've started and I really hope I'm proved wrong on this. I have noticed that there are few Women posters on this site, what I would really like to know is it true that ladies do not obsess over music collections like men do? Most women who I've dated/been out with own such things as Simply Red 'Greatest Hits', Take That or some old rubbish off of X factor! Please prove me wrong if you are a lady or if your partner is cool enough to dig Robert Fripp!

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 12:07:19 GMT
N. Waters says:
Hello Mark
As a woman, I would tend to agree with you! I was unfortunate enough to be at school during the Osmond/Cassidy/Bay City Rollers craze, and was a virtual outcast from my classmates because I hated them all!
I don't know what you would think about my taste in music though. I am a die hard Tom Petty fan, but also like a range of rock music from the 60s to the present day. None of my friends care too much about music though, or they tend to listen to the kind of stuff you mentioned. It's a lonely place to be!

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 12:12:19 GMT
Neil Lucock says:
Perhaps the girls you meet just don't have your taste in music (or are into something else, such as movies or books). I think it's true that a lot of women aren't into music as much as men are,

Neil

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 13:17:48 GMT
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MC Zaptone says:
A good friend of mine was fantastically well versed in the art of musical knowledge, great eclectic taste, had opinions about various musicians and their style of play, an ability to pick out good new bands while owning a huge collection of music from '60 onward, including King Crimson she was around 26 herself at the time.

She then went and had a baby, I don't think she's listened to much of anything since.

So I reckon occasionally you get girls as passionate about music as men but priorities change things for women in a way that they don't seem to quite as much for us blokes.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 14:21:00 GMT
N. Waters says:
If she was into it that much, she will almost certainly come back to it again. Babies and children take all our time and energy when they are growing up, but the experience will not turn this lady into a Take That fan!

I think one of the problems for us women is that there were far fewer women in rock when we were younger - even now it can sometimes seem quite an intimidating, even misogynistic environment. Women were tolerated as singers, or something pretty to stand at the front, but were rarely seen as serious musicians. Hence women get into something else like movies or books as Neil suggested.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 15:17:02 GMT
N. Waters - good for you madame! I had hoped to be proven wrong. Neil...you could be right...but everyone I went out with seemed to own a Tracy Chapman record! Banal dross.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 15:20:29 GMT
Red Mosquito says:
Many men seem to associate their taste in, and knowledge of music with their 'street cred'. They believe it to be an important aspect of their identity and therefore they invest heavily in it, both emotionally and finacially. Their record/ CD/ ipod collection becomes a constant reminder of who they are. This doesn't appear to be as important to many women. Why? I don't know, perhaps more will be revealed in this forum however some research I read recently concluded by suggesting that 'men and women view the world differently'.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 15:47:13 GMT
N. Waters says:
D.M. Clarkson - you make an interesting point. But women also have a need to be accepted by their peers, it's just that the music that they listened to was different. Because the 'girls' music' was generally so awful, I suppose most people grew out of it (or didn't, and still listen to 'banal dross'!).
I think it is easier to be individual nowadays. My sons and their friends, male and female, seem to enjoy a wide range of music and listen to a lot of different bands. Nobody seems to be excluded because their musical tastes are different.

Incidently, I used to be married to a man whose favourite music was DISCO!!!!
I'm not any more!

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 16:53:36 GMT
BOF © says:
Sad but true Mrs B.O.F.'s taste are banal I got in the car last night from work (she picked me up) and she had treated herself at Sainsbury's to Duffy's album aarrgghh the trip home seemed to last for hours.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 16:56:59 GMT
Martin says:
She duffed you up good an' proper!

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 17:01:39 GMT
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BOF © says:
Got my own back on arriving home I played 'Red' then followed it with 'Feels good to me' aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh bliss finished off with 'L' while she made tea, then went to the cricket club for my Friday gallon.
Best bones
B.O.F.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 17:13:59 GMT
SP Crowley says:
Women do like good music but aren't afraid to cheapen this by listening to whatever fluffy s---te tickles their earlobes. Equally, they are less likely to have ACS (Anal Completists Syndrome) so the cred to bollox ratio of their music collections is not as high as it is for us chaps. They are also less likely to appeal to irony when caught out listening to The Alarm or something else criminal - they will just say they like it. This arguably makes women better than men.
Finally, they don't have the proselytising zeal that men have - how many relationships have ended half way through the b-side of Trout Mask Replica? I took my missus to see Fields of the Nephilim. Did she embrace the mighty goth overlords and regret wasting her teenage years on Depeche Mode. My a--e she did. 'Better than I thought they would be but too loud' Gave up after that. We listen to Snow Patrol together.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 17:27:12 GMT
BOF © says:
Yeh SP left to her own devices she listens to fluff but I have got in into Nick Drake, John Martyn, Ry Cooder, Traffic/Steve Winwood, Little Feat and of course Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye so at least some evenings with a bottle of red wine are nice and relaxing.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 17:36:13 GMT
SP Crowley says:
Ah. See what you did there! Smart sounds. Metallica isn't the place to start then?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 17:36:37 GMT
Annabel-Lee says:
Not this cookie!.Mad about music and film and always will be!.Theres always music...

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 17:54:00 GMT
Butler Rises says:
This is really about how we judge people and the supposed feeling of superiority when faced with a person who listens to something we deem "criminal".

Personally, I have no problem admitting I like stuff that others would see as cliched and trite.
That's because I don't have an an insecurity complex.

For some, admitting they like music that is loved by the masses, means that they have to leave their safe little box of specialist peer approved music. Being part of the bigger crowd makes them insecure, as they can no longer demonstrate their superiority. These people subconciously feel safer, being part of a small crowd than a big crowd.

Women don't have the need for tribal identification.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 18:30:41 GMT
BOF © says:
Butler
That may have been true as a young man but at this moment in my life I don't need to feel superior to my wife (we've been together 28 years married for 26) I simply don't want to listen to certain types of music. Unfortunately she does tend to buy stuff like Duffy, Take That, Leona Lewis, Amy Winehouse, Dido, James Morrison and Josh Stone the only thing is after a couple of months they disappear in her car somewhere and she plays the latest thing to death. I of course am a A.R.C. so all my cd's are in a rack filed alphabetically and I'm an audiophile bum as well but don't discuss music at work as the lads I work with are all golfers (spelt w@ankers) and if I have offended any golfers on this fori ....good.
Best bones
B.O.F.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 18:45:00 GMT
Butler Rises says:
I am from Scotland where you are handed a golf club as soon as you can walk.
The elitist golf snob syndrome is not so prevalent up here. There's a few snobby clubs full of w@nkers, but in general you will find metalheads, punks, bikers, hooligans, snobs, and average joes on the golf courses up here.
I find that wandering round the course with yer mates and six cans of lager in yer bag is a great way to unwind on a Friday afternoon.
Dont know if they have this down your way, but they have council courses up here, as well.
I hate football though.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 19:00:34 GMT
BOF © says:
Yeh there's council courses and all kinds of people play golf, I just can't be doing with it, ruins a good walk and they don't like my dogs (and I'm a responsible owner always pick up the dog eggs). I think you'll find you have more than your share of golf snobs up in Scotland maybe not where you live but in various other parts. I have been bored to death by various people telling me all about how golf was this and that and the best courses are in Scotland. My last words on the topic is this, you're stood on the High Street Tiger Woods walks into the Dog and Duck Mickey Rourke walks into the Crown and Cushion which pub would you go in for an afternoon of entertainment

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 19:20:54 GMT
trianon says:
What rubbish! I'm in my 50's ( hell I hate admitting that!) and my absolute hero is Bruce Springsteen (have been a fan since I was 17!). My collection includes Neil Young, Nick Cave, Steve Earle, Dr John, Tom Waits, Levon Holm. John Fogerty , Woody Guthrie and Leadbelly, just bought Seasick Steve etc etc and of the 'newies' love Kings of Leon and Kasabian. Oh, Southside Johnny too!

Proved wrong!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 19:39:22 GMT
Last edited by the author on 24 Jan 2009 22:05:19 GMT
BOF © says:
Trianon you forgot to mention Richard Thompson (brilliant) and U2 (don't know if I can forgive you for that) but how do you find time to listen as you are obviously a vociferous reader.
Best bones
B.O.F.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 19:44:51 GMT
N. Waters says:
Let me ask another question - are there any female rock musicians who are admired (for their music!), by the men who have posted here?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 19:51:51 GMT
BOF © says:
Thats easy Joni Mitchell, Joan Baez and Jennifer Warnes

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 20:52:18 GMT
WJ Davidson says:
My Mrs is cool enough to dig Led Zep, Bob Dylan, Deep Purple, Iron Maiden, Aerosmith, AC/DC etc

That's more than good enough for me .

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2009 22:58:27 GMT
Not long after I met the soon to be Mrs M she bought "V" by Spocks Beard to impress me then went with me to see Peter Hammill. She quite likes SB but equates listening to Peter Hammill with having root canal work done minus the anaesthetic. Since then, it`s been mainly her tastes versus mine and rarely do the two meet. Hers? Mostly mainstream, Snow Patrol, Feeling ( I can take these two) but then it`s all downhill with Take That, Robbie Williams, Michael Jackson etc etc. She really can`t see the appeal of Crimson, Yes, and even likes 80`s Genesis better than the classic period. But her real hatred is reserved for VDGG/Hammill. Can`t think why, its so easy to listen to.....
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