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Christianity, witches, and The Crucible.


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Initial post: 12 Jun 2014 23:23:59 BDT
Last edited by the author on 12 Jun 2014 23:24:41 BDT
The victims of this religious persecution were tried condemned and executed based on the experiential evidence and testimony of Christians in good standing. Is there a better example of the danger of being overly credulous of experiential evidence when it is not validated by empirically testable evidence?

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jun 2014 23:42:02 BDT
B.A.Pilgrim says:
When was this Sheldon? Was it the one in the paper the other day? Is Archbishop Welby prepping the clergy for a spring clean of neo-paganism?

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jun 2014 23:50:50 BDT
Stu says:
BAP, it should be his Archbishop, up late to do a bit of wizardry?

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jun 2014 09:08:32 BDT
There speaks the "head in the sand" ignoramus. Just because it does not happen in your street means that it doesn't happen.

Start with http://education.nationalgeographic.com/education/news/witch-trials-21st-century/?ar_a=1 as a simple primer.

"...Today, witch trials occur all over the world. Organizations like the United Nations and Stepping Stones Nigeria have found that the number of witch trials around the world is increasing. They are almost always violent, and sometimes they are deadly.... In January 2009, a young girl was burned alive, accused of being a witch and infecting men with HIV/AIDS. A month later, a father and son were also burned to death after being accused of witchcraft... As recently as 2007, children accused of witchcraft in Nigeria were burned, poisoned, and abused... In 2008, rumors that a successful soccer player was using witchcraft triggered a riot in Kinshasa, Congo. The riot and stampede killed 13 people...

...In India, landowning women are sometimes accused of witchcraft. Neighbors of the suspected witch may begin collecting firewood on which the suspect will burn. The women, often older widows, are scared enough to leave their homes. Their neighbors then take their land...

People who look different are often the victims of witch trials. In Tanzania, albino people are in danger of being killed for their skin and body parts. Since 2007, more than 50 albinos have been killed for ritual use. Tanzanian witch-doctors believe the arms, legs, skin, and hair of albinos have special magic in them, and that their use will bring their clients good luck in love, life, and business... President Yahya Jammeh of The Gambia believes he is being targeted by witches. According to Amnesty International, as many as 1,000 Gambians accused of witchcraft have been arrested and tortured on orders from the president. At least two people are dead. President Jammeh also claims to be able to cure AIDS on Thursdays and fires doctors who disagree with him...

"There has never been a proven case of witchcraft in all of human history. On the other hand, there are thousands of victims of witch hunts."

Posted on 13 Jun 2014 10:10:00 BDT
Bearman says:
Helen Ukpabio was recently (April) permitted to come to London from Nigeria to preach to African Christian communities in the UK, her evil teachings about witchcraft. She is on the record for teaching that "If a child under the age of two screams in the night, cries and is always feverish with deteriorating health he or she is a servant of Satan." It is people like this who are the driving force behind murders like Victoria Climbié, and, "Adam", the West African boy whose torso was found by the Thames in 2001.

http://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/she-said/2014/apr/13/this-christian-preacher-should-not-have-been-allowed-to-bring-her-witch-hunt-into-this-country

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jun 2014 14:34:39 BDT
B.A.Pilgrim says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jun 2014 14:38:39 BDT
Stu says:
witchcraft on Sundays ONLY!!

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jun 2014 14:49:24 BDT
Bearman says:
And yet children get murdered by Christians in this country believing them to be witches.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jun 2014 14:55:50 BDT
G. Heron says:
Bearman

"And yet children get murdered by Christians in this country believing them to be witches. "

I hope you are not suggesting a curtailment of the freedom of religion, that would never do!

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jun 2014 14:59:41 BDT
Bearman says:
How could you suggest such a thing?

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jun 2014 15:41:45 BDT
Last edited by the author on 13 Jun 2014 15:43:02 BDT
Salem witch trials, The Crucible is a film about it. Though there have been high profile cases quite recently, in the UK as well.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jun 2014 17:24:35 BDT
"When was this Sheldon? "

'Salem' is not just an anagram of 'males', BAP.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jun 2014 17:42:20 BDT
B.A.Pilgrim says: "...Is this it. a few examples of rural, superstitious people. It really is a tragedy that other countries choose to keep their populations in such a dire position. I'm glad CofE provides some of the best education in our country "

A few examples... there you go... head in the sand, @rs3 in the air... and they wonder why they get shafted...!?
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Initial post:  12 Jun 2014
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