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Initial post: 2 Apr 2014 13:22:05 BDT
I never had any experience of atheists or atheism before looking on here for the first time. I know plenty of people without a belief in a higher power but those I do know seem content to leave people who do believe to their own devices. I thought that being an atheist meant having a relaxed religious view but now I realise just how dangerous some are. Hurtful, spiteful, judgmental and incapable of reasonable debate. I think the Saudi's have got this right, there society won't fall victim to `free speech' used to offend. I'm aware that date of this article is April the 1st but I sincerely hope this isn't a joke. Only an uncouth and uncultured atheist would find that kind of joke amusing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2594139/Saudi-Arabia-declares-atheists-terrorists-new-laws.html

Posted on 2 Apr 2014 13:32:02 BDT
Last edited by the author on 2 Apr 2014 13:42:03 BDT
Ohh no, please don't tell me I don't add to the discussion athiests. It proves your ignorance. How can the discussion not add to the discussion? a lot of you could use god in your life, then perhaps you wouldn't be such huge pee flaps? Just a thought.

Posted on 2 Apr 2014 13:34:19 BDT
Dan quick mark this down! You're a winner mate, it's what winners do!

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Apr 2014 13:54:32 BDT
Last edited by the author on 2 Apr 2014 13:55:36 BDT
Hi CGG... Hope you are well. Made it back from Barca with my wallet intact (except for the hotel bill!)

So which religion would you like to impose its will on Blighty then.

Islam a la Saudi?
RCC with free altar boy for all?

some other?

You are right in that it makes a poor joke but then, like all great jokes is has the verisimilitude of truth.

EDIT - PS it WAS the Daily Mail after all. They might think this very unpleasant article was amusing in some way.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Apr 2014 14:01:40 BDT
Last edited by the author on 2 Apr 2014 14:07:39 BDT
Afternoon Nestov, glad you enjoyed Barca and hope you could at least appreciate the beauty of Sagrada Família if nothing else.

I'm not catholic or Islamic but appreciate that they are both built on values. However WRT to both bodies just like humans they are not immune to cancers, whether that's extremists, paedophiles or any other kind of person that takes advantage of their position of trust to abuse, hurt or incite others to violence. Paedophilia isn't the disease of only the Catholic Church however, I'm pretty sure that a few atheist child football team coaches will have been locked up at one time or another.

Posted on 2 Apr 2014 14:34:44 BDT
"Sagrada Família " Sadly at the moment half of Barca is being repaired and most of the lovely Gaudi architecture cannot be seen as it is under wraps. It was quite sad as when we were on the bus an very elderly (even compared to me!) Swedish man had waited for 22 years to come and see the architecture and when he got there there was nothing really to see.

" I'm pretty sure that a few atheist child football team coaches will have been locked up at one time or another."

No doubt about it. There have been a number of cases that have passed through the courts involving swimming coaches, football coaches, gymnastics coaches etc... anywhere it seems that men (and occasionally women) are allowed free unsupervised access to children. The distinction that is brought up every time is that each of these tend to be one offs (some paedo groups though) and they do not have any protection of institutions which is why they have to hide so carefully. The RCC however has made it a policy to cover up and that is what brings out the really negative reaction.

Most atheists that I have seen on here take a very dim view of paedophilia but it is the cover up (look at the response to the UN) that brings out the real annoyance which is then magnified when the behaviour AND the cover up are treated as a mere peccadillo by apologists for the RCC. Certainly for me, the argument that the RCC is being picked on annoys me because unlike other groups which have a similar problem, these other groups are not claiming the moral high ground. Even that last would be forgivable if it were not for the cover up.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Apr 2014 16:52:55 BDT
Norm Deplume says:
"Only an uncouth and uncultured atheist would find that kind of joke amusing. "

Very small target audience then, considering how few atheists are uncouth and uncultured. They might even be another example of things you think exist but don't really.

"I know plenty of people without a belief in a higher power but those I do know seem content to leave people who do believe to their own devices."

Sadly this tolerance is not always reciprocated.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Apr 2014 19:01:54 BDT
Stu says:
Norm just joined this thread mate, not many atheists at all would find that joke amusing, in fact I find it outrageous.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Apr 2014 19:10:01 BDT
Is it a joke... I haven't really tried to check. If it isn't as I said before it is sadly believable. If it is a joke then it is in very poor taste. If I were the Saudis and it were meant as a joke I would be absolutely livid.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Apr 2014 19:34:01 BDT
Stu says:
Very poor taste Nestov.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Apr 2014 20:24:18 BDT
The Saudi's should know all about terrorism.

The comment was idiotic, as is your petty whining.

Posted on 3 Apr 2014 07:26:29 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 3 Apr 2014 11:55:05 BDT
Stu says:
Hey geek, Ryan was not personal about your appearance so why should you be about his? Uncalled for.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Apr 2014 12:19:19 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 3 Apr 2014 12:25:04 BDT
Stu says:
Well I'm not beating it as you put it geek ahah. can I ASK THEN why so nasty, no need for it is there?

Posted on 3 Apr 2014 12:30:35 BDT
cancan I ASK THEN why you are not worried about Ryan calling me idiotic and accusing me of petty whining? Have a look at yourself before you start questioning me buddy.

I said to you the other day never share anything personal on a public forum unless you are willing to put up with comment on it. I'd have said nothing to Tubby if he hadn't had an unnecessary dig at me. Thems the breaks.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Apr 2014 12:38:05 BDT
Stu says:
Geek he didn't call you idiotic what you said was (difference) but you were right telling me were you not mate, and I got the comebacks did I not? so now I know just a little late eh.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Apr 2014 12:45:15 BDT
Stu you're a decent chap but I'm not sure what you are talking about to be honest. WRT comebacks don't worry too much about winning or loosing on the amazon forum, it's not important.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Apr 2014 12:49:42 BDT
Stu says:
I got the comebacks yesterday so he is now on ignore, for the things he said about me what you said I should not put on a public forum mate, as I said I got the comebacks.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Apr 2014 18:30:49 BDT
Last edited by the author on 3 Apr 2014 18:31:15 BDT
"I can be just as mature as you."

Given an ice age for a headstart...

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Apr 2014 18:41:25 BDT
Computer geek guy says: "Stu you're a decent chap ..."Yes he is. Ryan and I possibly less so but it would be nice if you bore that in mind.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Apr 2014 22:18:08 BDT
Ian says:
RE: "I thought that being an atheist meant having a relaxed religious view" I don't think you understand what atheism is.

RE: "I think the Saudi's have got this right"
The article you link to states "law also applies to any Saudi citizen or a foreigner residing in the kingdom that... calls into question the fundamentals of the Islamic religion on which this country is based.'
So you're OK with anybody claiming that theirs is the one true religion being jailed for 20 years? I wouldn't like to be a Christian in Saudi Arabia. Or a Jew. Or a Zoroastrian. Or a Hindu.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Apr 2014 22:22:30 BDT
Stu says:
Or unemployed, homeless, one of the 70% that are in poverty?

Posted on 3 Apr 2014 23:05:10 BDT
Couldn't care less what a bottom-feeding specimen such as Jack, sorry CCG, thinks; but I'm going to enjoy teaching him the error of his ways.

Posted on 4 Apr 2014 06:32:16 BDT
Last edited by the author on 4 Apr 2014 07:01:50 BDT
That actually made me laugh out loud on the bus. How full of your own self importance are you? I cannot wait for our first lesson.
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