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Theres not really any such thing as an atheist.


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Initial post: 21 Dec 2011 18:09:44 GMT
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Posted on 21 Dec 2011 18:38:28 GMT
Withnail says:
We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart - H L Mencken

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Dec 2011 19:08:04 GMT
Jim Guest says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 21 Dec 2011 19:12:19 GMT
Withnail says:
What have I alleged but not answered?

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Dec 2011 19:38:23 GMT
You're pretending at being a feeble debater.

So far, I'm convinced.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Dec 2011 08:19:24 GMT
Tom M says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 24 Dec 2011 11:05:22 GMT
Jim Guest says:
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Posted on 24 Dec 2011 11:05:40 GMT
Jim Guest says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 24 Dec 2011 19:12:23 GMT
Simply acknowledging that an unevidenced claim cannot be disproven does make one an agnostic.

Agnosticism embraces unknowability as a spiritual position, and regards the question of the existence of a Supreme Being a mystery beyond human intellectual capability. I see theism merely as one of an infinite number of unverifiable claims that can be made, which unsurprisingly remains unverified, and I am no more undecided or noncommittal on the matter than I am on spiritualism, scientology or homeopathy. For that matter, a lot of theists would have to re-classify themselves as agnostic if the term has to include anyone who has the tiniest openness to the possibility of new and surprising information. That is why I classify myself as atheist while accepting that not everything about the universe is known.

Posted on 25 Dec 2011 01:44:58 GMT
Tom M says:
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Posted on 25 Dec 2011 08:09:21 GMT
Last edited by the author on 25 Dec 2011 08:10:27 GMT
Let's say it again, nice and slow.

If you have any proof of God's existence, kindly let it do the talking, else be deemed a delusional liar. Since you've wusses out at every turn to date, I don't think you will.

Your arguments are nothing more than wishful thinking and an inability to look at reality straight. That is you will always fail.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2011 08:26:16 GMT
Agnosticism embraces unknowability in the sense that it considers it a fine thing in itself. That is not my position, but as a value judgement I see nothing incoherent about it. The idea of God's existence or otherwise being beyond human comprehension is not something I agree with, I am just saying why I am atheist and not an agnostic (or an agnostic who thinks he is an atheist, etc etc). Hope that's cleared that one up.

Merry Christmas.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2011 18:26:03 GMT
Last edited by the author on 27 Dec 2011 11:53:14 GMT
Tom. my moto is: If you can't see it: If you can't hear it: If you can't smell it: If you can't taste it: If you can't feel it: If you can't demonstrate its force or actions: In all likelihood it does not exist: To think otherwise is to imagine it. Bible Thumper To Atheist. ebook

Posted on 27 Dec 2011 00:05:59 GMT
Spin says:
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Posted on 20 Apr 2012 02:10:46 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012 02:16:16 BDT
Says who? You? To simply tell "the other" that they do not exist, or that their viewpoint doesn't exist, is not the way to advance an intellectual discussion of the subject.

Referring to The Riverman: Ted Bundy and I Hunt for the Green River Killer, Keppel points out that one way to have a meaningful and successful interview with a serial killer is to empathize with them, to put yourself in their heads and see the world as they see it.

If Keppel had started his interviews by saying, "Ted, you're human scum who has no respect for life.", there would not be any interview at all. In discourse, it is vital to actually listen to what they say; if you wish to rebut them, then you must first understand their own point of view, however bizarre or foreign it might seem.

Empathy. That is all.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012 02:37:19 BDT
Tom M says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012 08:57:05 BDT
Jim Guest says:
Even pigs in mire can work it out.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012 10:15:09 BDT
"One cannot be an atheist as one can be a theist. "
Pure nonsense from a mind corrupted by some form of modern mental abuse. In this case a form of catholicism.

There are both sound reasoned arguments why being an atheist is th erational position and a distinct lack of arguments in favour of theism which hold water.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012 10:39:27 BDT
G. Heron says:
knocked out in 1973 just woke up

Just shows you what a terrible thing concussion can be.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012 10:42:22 BDT
G. Heron says:
Ash Vaz

As I posted on another thread after looking at your link, do you honestly think science can't explain the colours of a rainbow?

Posted on 20 Apr 2012 10:46:54 BDT
The Atheists says 'You cannot prove God exists, you have no evidence to support God's existence, therefore he does not exist.'

The Theist says 'You cannot prove that God does not exist, you have no evidence to support God's non-existence, therefore God does exist.'

The Agnostic says 'Neither the Atheist or the Theist can give me conclusive evidence that there is or isn't a God, therefore, I will remain open minded.

Me? I do believe in a creator God, a God of love. Having this belief inspires me to live my life to the full and do my best every day. Being a believer enhances my life. It's also my choice to hold this belief just as it is the right of everyone else to freely choose what to believe.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012 10:49:45 BDT
G. Heron says:
Mrs Diane S. Smith

While I agree that you have the right to believe whatever you wish I do think you are being disrespectful to reality.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012 10:50:49 BDT
"The Atheists says 'You cannot prove God exists, you have no evidence to support God's existence, therefore he does not exist.'"
Not quite, he says Therefore I will not believe he exists at this time.

The strong atheist says "and furthermore there is a body of evidence to suggest that humans regularly make up this sort of fictional being and fictional beings tend not to exist, so I believe it's likely he doesn't"

"The Agnostic says 'Neither the Atheist or the Theist can give me conclusive evidence that there is or isn't a God, therefore, I will remain open minded."
Most atheists are agnostic and vice versa.

"The Theist says 'You cannot prove that God does not exist, you have no evidence to support God's non-existence, therefore God does exist.'"
Many theists do use this form of argument, and it's completely fallacious. Existence must be demonstrated if it is to be believed, the default position is that any thing is possible but does not exist, only evidence can move us fromt hat position.

"Me? I do believe in a creator God, a God of love."
Care to say why?

Posted on 20 Apr 2012 10:56:48 BDT
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