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Initial post: 7 Oct 2010 11:50:32 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 Oct 2010 11:53:17 BDT
One womans lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand!

Thoughts?

Posted on 7 Oct 2010 12:46:04 BDT
Withnail says:
That would be quite a porker, wouldn't it?

If I recall correctly, at that time and place it was acceptable to get pregnant while betrothed, and Mary appears to have been betrothed to Joseph.

Posted on 7 Oct 2010 13:02:46 BDT
bsmalls says:
If only Jeremy Kyle had been around back then. Joseph on one side, the three wise men on the the otherside and Mary the cheap slut in the middle protesting she's still a virgin 'God is his dad, honest'......come back after the break for the paternity test result.

Posted on 7 Oct 2010 13:12:05 BDT
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Posted on 7 Oct 2010 13:57:16 BDT
J.Yasimoto says:
Christianity is...
...founded on the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few.

Posted on 7 Oct 2010 14:44:48 BDT
Christianity is...
...an unfathomable cult, which could be compared to the KKK.

Posted on 7 Oct 2010 22:22:57 BDT
Spin says:
Christaianity has nothing to do with the organised religions you oppose (with good reason). To be a Christian is simply to value other people, to treat them as you wish to be treated. It is as simple as that.

Posted on 7 Oct 2010 22:49:05 BDT
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Posted on 7 Oct 2010 23:16:15 BDT
Spin says:
Speak for yourself. By the way, Crowley said "Do as Thou Wilt", which is a refutation of christian teaching. And Christians do in fact do what they want, as you do. So why are you so opposed to freedom of speech, thought and movement?

Posted on 7 Oct 2010 23:46:51 BDT
DP Laing says:
Mary Magdalene's assumed lie is presumably the Resurrection and Jesus as a necessary presence in Trinity with God and Holy Ghost (fka Minerva-Athena-Parthenon w/o animist aspects), to prevent the Devil mechanism (of blind trust, intransigence (lame), Medusa-Hydra petrifying/ demonizing and having women as property) invading God or Holy Ghost. When scribes and the media pretend the Devil of hate, harm, house, honor, shame, fear and war to be God, people will be able to think "Jesus was completely opposite to that; they're lying". There is no evidence for this anti-Devil Hypothesis being even a mistake or deceit, let alone a lie. And Resurrection, even now, is sufficiently common that a historically reported one cannot be dismissed as a deceit with credibility.
As for Mary Magdalene's Trinity Hypothesis to prevent statolatry (like Nero's) and dictators (like Nero) and Devil mechanism use (one-sided evil/ good dualisms: delusions of necessary presences and absences) being a lie. Are hypotheses lies? All competent atheists analyze this compound hypothesis in depth in comparison with the later Tiberius- and Nero-style (anti-theist) polities that banned Trinity and indulged overcaste, flamen-led anarchy. Pardon the oxymoron.
The Resurrection is anyway multiply symbolic, of leaving the cave rescued by God where no-one can see, inter alia. The cave is not just Dolor Rosa channels in Holy Rock and the omega sign sanctifying Sion. It also symbolizes a relation to Homer's Iliad and its Original Crime of the Titan Cronus treason coup cutting off the Testimonials of Heaven with a sickle (secula L). Escape from other mythic caves is symbolized: Virgil's Secular Aeneas cave, Rome's Lupercal wolf's lair for their Secular Aeneas deity, Hell, Medusa's cave, Mammon's cave, Plato's prisoners of the cave, Aristotle's Assos Utopia experiment, Pluto, the subconscious, cavemen per se, and so on. It was provably the Secular (also called atheist at the time) cutting off of the Testimonials of Heaven that bothered Jesus the most. This would be about cutting off such as Decalog, Gospel, Eden Creation myth, all-science, all-dynamics, all-logics, all-love, Jews, Christians, the virile differences of Roman Equestrians, and so on, some as reported by Mary Magdalene, as reported first Gospel editor. Is selective editing, sevens obsessions, and a cryptic Gospel a lie?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Oct 2010 23:50:31 BDT
Yes I know that he said that but couldn't be bothered looking up the exact words.
Christians don't do what they want. They try to follow the teachings of Christ. If you do what you want, as Mr. Crowley advocated then you are not Christian.
I am not opposed to freedom of speech unlike others on this forum who spend their time reporting abuse when they disagree with an opinion (like Ryan Williams when writing about one of your posts on another thread.)
I am guided by Christ's teachings and will say this freely.
You don't seem to have a clue about what you're talking about.

Posted on 8 Oct 2010 00:12:33 BDT
Spin says:
You are mistaken. Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Buddhists and Hindus, (Even Scientologists) follow an organised religion. Real Christians follow two principles: Love your God (no matter what you consider God to be) and treat others as you wish to be treated. That is true christianity. Indeed, as a secularist, you must admit that secular society bases its laws and governance on "christian" principles. Even though it claims secularism, society values the principles introduced by christianity. And by valuing them, even though people reject organised religion, they are christians.

Posted on 8 Oct 2010 06:20:08 BDT
J.Yasimoto says:
"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means". G.B.Shaw.

Posted on 8 Oct 2010 08:41:19 BDT
Christianity is ... Santa Claus for grown ups !

Posted on 8 Oct 2010 10:11:59 BDT
Last edited by the author on 8 Oct 2010 10:12:19 BDT
"Indeed, as a secularist, you must admit that secular society bases its laws and governance on "christian" principles. Even though it claims secularism, society values the principles introduced by christianity. And by valuing them, even though people reject organised religion, they are christians. "



you can be religious and secular, in fact secularism born out of Westphalia in 1648 in the west effectively made ALL secularists religious to some degree. Since then there have been more 'documented' atheists simply becuase we're no longer burnt at the stake for claiming there's probably no god. To call me a 'christian' just because I live in a country where religion is (correctly) marginalised in the public policy making sphere is inherently incorrect. Again, religious observation and secularism operate in two completely different spheres, one can be Muslim and secular, or atheist and secular.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Oct 2010 12:35:37 BDT
"That would be quite a porker, wouldn't it?

If I recall correctly, at that time and place it was acceptable to get pregnant while betrothed, and Mary appears to have been betrothed to Joseph."

Yes but if he hadn't, in your words, pork'd er then it would've been a jolly old stoning for Mary for cheating.

Posted on 8 Oct 2010 14:44:53 BDT
At the end of the day, it's just a label. We as people feel the need to categorize everyone, we need to be able to be described/named somehow, it's just the way it is. Perhaps because we fear the unkown, and if you can't name someone or place them in some sort of definitve category, it makes us feel uneasy about them. It's a coping mechanism, which helps us feel at ease when sharing a world with billions of strangers, if we can get an idea of what category they fall under, we can then understand (enough to get by) them better (granted based on our sterotypical knowledge of said category).

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Oct 2010 22:04:43 BDT
Real Christians don't follow organised religion they follow Christ's teachings not men's.
They love the God described in the Bible and not what suits them. It is not up to us to decide what God is like it is up to us to search for Him and let him reveal himself to us.
Christians must love God with all their heart and love others and creation.
Society has rejected Christ's teachings as was predicted of old and the moral decay is reflected in the physical decay of our environment and the progressive death of God's creation..

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Oct 2010 22:08:03 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2010 12:20:01 BDT
J.Yasimoto says:
Erm... it wasn't me. It was George Bernard Shaw. Hence the quote marks. And the "G.B.Shaw." text at the end of the statement.

Posted on 9 Oct 2010 13:16:49 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Oct 2010 13:21:18 BDT
One more faith dwindling away. Perhaps in two hundred years' time it will be an interesting footnote in the pages of history; maybe even a snappy mini-series, complete with a new line of t-shirts and novelty mugs. But not much else, really.

"And by valuing them, even though people reject organised religion, they are christians"

Or not: by that logic, fans who hate the offside rule would be professional footballers, and backbenchers Prime Ministers.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2010 15:16:36 BDT
RAB says:
Filipo Inzhagi (Spelling?), the man Sir Alex Ferguson claims was born offside, would attest that a fan who hates the said rule can indeed achieve professional footballing status.

Posted on 9 Oct 2010 19:10:46 BDT
athanasius says:
Hidden jewls There in lies the challenge of Christianity to follow Christ's will and not our own..well said

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2010 19:25:30 BDT
Drew Jones says:
Most Christian's seem to find it easier if they impart their own will onto the idea they have of Jesus and then work under the delusion it was his all along. It's not like he's around anymore to correct you.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2010 23:13:23 BDT
Yes but you quoted it and it is a stupid statement.
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