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"I Invite Even Non-Believers to Desire Peace" - Pope Francis


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Initial post: 25 Dec 2013 16:12:19 GMT
Henry James says:
Does anyone else find the Pope's Christmas message ironic?

Posted on 25 Dec 2013 16:18:42 GMT
Last edited by the author on 25 Dec 2013 16:19:56 GMT
I invite the Pope to follow through with the following:

Reform the Vatican bank to International standards.
Carry on sacking the neo-con cronies.
Remind the Church that it's there for the benefit of its members, not the other way around.
Tackle the outright corruption and brute sexism in the Catholic countries, starting with Italy.
More transparency, no more aiding & abetting sex offenders.

Plus, if he could send Paul and Tom either a telegram or an e-mail each telling them to either shape up or bog off out his Church, that would be nice.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2013 16:21:12 GMT
Yes, a bit.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2013 16:22:49 GMT
Ryan Williams: 'Plus, if he could send Paul and Tom either a telegram or an e-mail each telling them to either shape up or bog off out his Church, that would be nice.'

That wouldn't work. They'd just read what they already wanted it to say, not what it actually did say.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2013 16:52:35 GMT
Norm Deplume says:
Not ironic but somewhat insulting. In a spirit of reconciliation, however I invite even believers to desire peace - and, if possible, do something to bring it about. They can pray if they like but it does not count as doing something.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2013 18:12:25 GMT
Henry James says:
I should stipulate that I like many things about this new Pope (he says the same about me)
and in fact this statement itself can be seen to be a gesture towards inclusivity, albeit somewhat clumsily worded.
But then, not everyone is Henry James.
Thank the Lord.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2013 18:50:26 GMT
Anita says:
Just thought - and what if everyone were Henry James? That would make me a Henry James too. Would that make me like myself better? But then you'd probably dislike me... A bit confusing, you know. I'd rather remain myself, for better or for worse.

Hiya, runaway bridegroom, hope all is well with you

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2013 18:56:53 GMT
Just for you Henry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ9sJVJMiYM

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2013 19:12:13 GMT
Henry James says:
Yeah well the main reason I ran away wuz cuz U wouldn't marry me...

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2013 19:42:15 GMT
Yeah well maybe she's got someone else in her life Henry, someone who isn't dead and didn't write The Golden Bowl!

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2013 20:13:55 GMT
Henry James says:
Let me at the guy.
I'll beat the life out of him.
Peaceably, of course.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 13:29:38 GMT
Anita says:
In good (bad?) old times it has been pretty normal for two guys to fight for the attentions of a lady (it still is between two moose or blackcocks or other lovely beings). And then the winner takes it all, including the fair lady.

However, you beat the life out of "him", and you are free to go, and I am staying with the one who was brave enough to stand for me against the formidable you

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 13:40:25 GMT
I'd like to see Henry beat the life out of a moose!

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 13:44:08 GMT
Anita says:
Hell, Anthony, thank you for not adding how you would like to see me staying with a moose instead of Henry :)

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 13:58:59 GMT
Amen to that...

and yes, I do find the pope's message somewhat ironic....

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 14:05:44 GMT
Anita, love is blind.

http://sardinereport.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/moosedm2003_468x440.jpg

:-)

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 14:29:07 GMT
Anita says:
Ahhhh... gorgeous! :)

(Wait. "Gorgeous" obviously contradicts the "blind" part. You got me confused, AGAIN!)

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 14:35:54 GMT
Last edited by the author on 26 Dec 2013 14:36:05 GMT
It's the love that is blind, not the person in love:

'So I, admiring of his qualities.
Things base and vile, holding no quantity,
Love can transpose to form and dignity.
Love looks not with the eyes but with the mind.
And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.'

A Midsummer Night's Dream

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 15:20:02 GMT
But they are not all innocent you know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G7sbW_2-Rc

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 17:04:15 GMT
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Posted on 26 Dec 2013 17:11:10 GMT
'Even non-believers.'

The implication is that they are less likely to desire peace. Why are they?

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 17:17:09 GMT
Last edited by the author on 26 Dec 2013 17:18:18 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 18:04:33 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 18:06:34 GMT
What benefit do they derive from it?

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2013 19:03:10 GMT
Last edited by the author on 26 Dec 2013 19:32:06 GMT
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