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The Bones of John the Baptist - Found in 2010 in Bulgaria?


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Initial post: 19 Jun 2012 14:14:57 BDT
Pendragon says:
OK people, while we are on the subject of relics, how about this one?

In July 2010, six bones, which include a molar and a piece of cranium, were found in a marble sarcophagus in the ruins of a medieval church on the island of Sveti Ivan, or Saint John, off Bulgaria's Black Sea coast near the seaside resort of Sozopol.

Archaeologists have dated the burial of the marble sarcophagus, and an inscribed box (part of which was found with it), to the 5th century, well before the manufacture of and trade in religious "relics" got underway.

University of Oxford's Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit has now carbon dated the bones to between 5 and 75 AD.

And geneticist experts from the University of Copenhagen have established the full DNA code of three of the bones. The genetic analysis shows that the bones were from the same person, a man who most probably came from the Middle East.

John the Baptist, beheaded in Jerusalem in 30 AD by Herod Antipas?
Or Honest John of Antioch who died in 30 AD and was later dug up by grave robbers?
Or is it Brian?

See yesterday's report from the Independent:
http://www.iol.co.za/scitech/science/discovery/dna-bolsters-john-the-baptist-bones-claim-1.1321641

and from 16 June this one:
http://www.huliq.com/12092/john-baptists-bones-dna-carbon-dating-support-claims

The programme mentioned at the end of the huliq.com article was aired on Sunday 17 June and again last night on National Geographic channel. It is entitled, somewhat sensationally and inaccurately, "Head Of John The Baptist" and will be repeated on 21 June (Thursday), 22 June, 23 June, 24 June and 25 June (twice that day!).

Let's hope it is not another total dud, like the Gospel of Judas clanger National Geographic famously dropped in 2006!

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 14:23:59 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 14:58:07 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 15:06:12 BDT
Pendragon says:
Spin: I hate to break it to you, but in 2000 years your "left nut" will have reverted to cosmic dust - nothing left to carbon date!

Posted on 19 Jun 2012 15:11:23 BDT
Last edited by the author on 19 Jun 2012 15:11:40 BDT
Pendragon says:
This article was written after the bones were discovered in July 2010 but before the carbon dating or DNA sequencing:

http://www.sjc.ox.ac.uk/3996/Relics%20of%20the%20baptist_scientific%20research.pdf.download

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 15:44:26 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 16:06:57 BDT
Spin,
Are you going to tattoo it whilst you are still alive?
If so, respect.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 16:16:12 BDT
Pendragon says:
And can we all be there to hear your screams?

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 16:21:11 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 17:06:37 BDT
Withnail says:
But just to be clear, will the tattoo be on the purse or the nut?

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Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 17:48:48 BDT
Pendragon says:
What do you reckon?

Posted on 19 Jun 2012 17:56:57 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 19:56:52 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 20:18:33 BDT
Mr. B Lott,

You may want to ask Pendragon before making assumptions about him.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 20:34:34 BDT
C. A. Small says:
Mr Lott- Pendragon is one of the most knowledgable people on here, whilst I do not agree with everything he posts, we have had some interesting discussions and disagreed on things.

He is however light years away from the loony tune theists you refer to, or if he is one he hides it well.

I do not know him personally and for all I know he may spend his nights dancing naked round a mulberry bush singing songs about witches.

But his posts are always informative. He is always ready to discuss, and usually with clarity.

There are many theists on here who would fit your description, but Pendragon is NOT one of them.

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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 21:04:25 BDT
Have you been smoking something? Why would I want to make a pilgrimage, kiss bones, or buy trinkets?

You seem to like making unwarranted assumptions about people. Perhaps you should find out a bit more about those people first.

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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 21:14:12 BDT
Yes, those well-known bone-kissing, trinket-buying, atheistic pilgrimages...

Really do recommend that you do that research before jumping in both feet first and finding those feet in your mouth.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 21:18:32 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 21:23:09 BDT
Proverbial feet in mouth.

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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 21:27:55 BDT
Why should you imagine that?
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