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'Harry Potter and Yoga are evil'


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Initial post: 23 Jan 2012 12:24:38 GMT
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/harry-potter/8915691/Harry-Potter-and-yoga-are-evil-says-Catholic-Church-exorcist.html

Not from some fringe figure, but from the Vatican's former chief exorcist.

Discuss.

Posted on 23 Jan 2012 12:45:14 GMT
This has been put up before.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2012 15:18:28 GMT
kraka says:
Ryan, hi and Welcome.

Having practiced Kundalini/pranayam Yoga for around forty years I personally state that such a statement is utter nonsense. It is totally and completely neutral of any belief or religion and is purely physical in it's practice designed to destress and relax the mind and body and to develope health and fitness. However when deep meditation is combined into the practice then it becomes spiritual, but still remains neutral of any religion and sees rather the spiritual nature that is in everybody that Christ and many, many prophets have tried over the centurys to awaken in mankind. Christ and other prophets revealed this divine knowledge and meditation is it's mode of experience and realisation and in itself is neutral of any religion but the inspiration and truth that is at the root of them all. The spirit of God and the soul of man is neither Hindu, moslam, christian, or coloured by any other religion, but remains pure and untainted by any religious interpretation. Christ did not teach christianity he taught the uncorrupted Truth of God free to all men, which other prophets have done before and since, after their deaths churches are created and religions established and assume the role as mediator between man, God's prophet, and God Himself and impose mans dogma and interpretations on the Truth. No church can save you, no church can provide positive contact with God, access to God is within you. The gospel that contained christs instructions that you do not seek God from another man or cleric but that you seek first the Kingdom of Heaven which is within you, was discarded. This was considered detrimental to the future of the church and it's proposed role, as with all religions, as the mediator between man and God. This role is not required and serves only in the survival of the church, each human being was created complete with their own personal link with the Divine within themselves, it's what your soul is for and why you hunger for it's fullfillment. Beyond the promises of religion awaits the real taste of the Divine but you have to, as Christ instructs, seek it by yourself alone.

Embodied in all True scriptures is the Truth of the Divine between man his soul and God, all are signposts along this path that if followed lead to the Knowledge and real experience of the Divine, it's why you were created, to know your own soul and the divinity within it.

No i find the statement of the exorcist lacks understanding and wish him well in his search for God rather than demons.

Posted on 23 Jan 2012 15:25:05 GMT
Last edited by the author on 23 Jan 2012 15:41:01 GMT
I find it a tad disturbing that the guy who did all those exorcisms can't look at a copy of Harry Potter without screaming to all and sundry about Satan.

Not exactly a picture of sanity.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2012 15:30:06 GMT
G. Heron says:
I can't help thinking there is a bit of sour grapes here as the Harry Potter books are far more of a page turner than the bible.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2012 15:39:52 GMT
A Reader says:
"Embodied in all True scriptures is the Truth of the Divine between man his soul and God..."

So any scriptures (as sacred writings) that disagree are not "True Scriptures". OK. All these things are inventions of humans and their genes too.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2012 16:15:22 GMT
Well said Kraka...

What a pleasure to read, thank you for your inspired response.

Posted on 23 Jan 2012 17:22:17 GMT
Tom M says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2012 17:37:41 GMT
Drew Jones says:
Maybe you'd like to take this opportunity to give us the correct context "of the actual conversation" that makes these quotes seem reasonable.

Posted on 23 Jan 2012 18:56:48 GMT
Last edited by the author on 23 Jan 2012 19:06:53 GMT
"It's amusing to see ignorant posts-"

Defending a zealot who thinks cheap pot-boilers lead kids into Satan's clutches? Yes, it's a hoot.

If he'd taken a shot at them for being baggy, having a wonky pace or way with characterisation, he might have had a point.

Posted on 23 Jan 2012 19:18:56 GMT
i think that once we open ourselves up to the possibility that there are supernatural forces existing for good and evil and that seek to work through us to further their cause, we basically put ourselves in the position of having to always look over our shoulder and question motive/intent with everything. if it's possible for evil to enter a person then it's possible for it to enter us. if we believe then it only makes sense to guard/protect ourselves and to reject or keep away from those things perceived as either 'the work of the Devil' or leading to 'straying from the path of good'.

if we then add to the equation the concept of Satan as the great deceiver where even things that seem harmless or good can be evil, let evil in or lead down the path of evil then we're looking at religious belief that feels like it has paranoia built into it.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2012 21:11:01 GMT
kraka says:
Nick hi an welcome,

What i am saying is, the purpose of the prophet is to reveal the truth of God to mankind and by this means to set man on the right path for his return to God and this is reflected in scriptures. So the purpose of the scripture is the same as the prophet's to help restore man to God. A scripture that fails this is about as usefull as a racehorse without any legs.

Cheers and take care,.................kraka.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2012 21:26:28 GMT
kraka says:
Angela hi,

welcome and thanks for your response, i typed it out and hesitated before hitting the post button with a concern that it might be a bit over the top, i do have respect and admiration for all the people that practice religion and i do not wish to offend their faith in anyway. However i reasoned their faith should be in God not in any religous establishment and hit the post button.

Once again thanks, mind how you go..................kraka.

Posted on 25 Jan 2012 21:59:09 GMT
Dear Tom,

Cat got your tongue?

Posted on 26 Jan 2012 00:01:29 GMT
Last edited by the author on 26 Jan 2012 00:07:50 GMT
Shukkeh says:
A little bit off-topic (warning!)
The former chief exorcist from Vatican...wrong he is! Yoda not evil, he is.

P.S.: I doubt these guys even know the difference between the two. :) Pop-culture was always harmful, in a way. And yes...the Vatican was once worried about the Star Wars boom in the 70's and is strongly opposed against the 'Star Wars' religion, especially if it lures any merry Christian devotees into this religion. They forget one thing...maybe these people still believe in god?

Apart from that - more on-topic now - isn't yoga and meditation, whereever it might derive from, in a way the same? Trying to find a kind of soothing inner rest, physical relaxation and reflectation of past events? Wait...isn't meditation then related in a way to praying? Just wanna toss this aspect into the game.
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