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Why should I be a Chjristian?


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Initial post: 7 Nov 2012 00:51:32 GMT
Spin says:
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Posted on 7 Nov 2012 13:29:51 GMT
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Tom M says:
Lots of excellent subjects Spin. The best answer is perhaps that it is not only true, which personal experience of love , history and reason reason confirm almost unavoidably, but equally or more, because everything that human beings do and should value greatly, especially life itself, is wonderfully supported and given its proper framing in love. It's a never ending story of love among the ruins, as someone once phrased it.

Christ is the full answer to the full human question.

In Christ we find the only possible answer worth having. Pure love and true freedom as pure gift, the alpha and the omega.
Cheers

Posted on 7 Nov 2012 15:03:03 GMT
Helps cjlear jour jnose qjkly.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Nov 2012 16:27:49 GMT
Last edited by the author on 7 Nov 2012 16:29:33 GMT
... To thoroughly annoy, one's Jewish/Muslim/Atheist etc. parents.

Posted on 7 Nov 2012 16:52:03 GMT
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Posted on 7 Nov 2012 22:09:46 GMT
I.N. says:
Because the New Testament's teachings of tolerance are a good basis on which to live your life (as long as you ignore all the intolerant stuff in the OT). It doesn't matter if you don't believe there's a god, or that the stories in The Bible are anything other than a mixture of myth, exaggeration and pure imagination. Just pretend.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Nov 2012 22:29:46 GMT
Archibald F says:
Hi Spin

"Why should I be a Christian?" If true, because Jesus is the saviour who has died for you, for the forgiveness of your sins, and to bring you into the presence of the living God, to set you free and give you life in all its fullness. Of course, if it's not true, probably best avoided. I've been reading the God Collar by Marcus Brigstock, where he is wrestling with this stuff and how he'd like to believe in God, but only on his terms. Strikes me as a man who wants to go out with a girl, but only as long as she will be exactly what he wants her to be.

From my own experience, I'd say if you really, genuinely want to know the truth, and are willing to accept the outcome and be shaped by it, rather than trying to shape the truth to be what you think you would like, then seek, pray, and ask God to reveal himself to you.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Nov 2012 22:31:58 GMT
Last edited by the author on 7 Nov 2012 22:32:14 GMT
"Just pretend."

Why pretend?

You said on another thread; "Who cares?" :http://tinyurl.com/bp9a2mu

Why pretend, if you don't care?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Nov 2012 22:50:45 GMT
I.N. says:
I didn't say I didn't care, I said it was a possible response to the question "Is there a god".

Christianity seems to have a reasonable set of moral values (if I ignore the bits I don't agree with, which is what everyone else does) so why not just play along?

I also didn't say I intended to pretend. Spin asked why he should be a Christian and I was just offering a possible reason (and a way of achieving it if he didn't believe it).

As a teenager I was told on several occasions (by teachers, my scout leader who was a church elder and my parents) that it didn't matter whether I believed in God, if I was expected to read a passage from The Bible or close my eyes during a prayer and then say "amen" at the end that I should just go along with it. I was given this advice by Christians in positions of responsibility (and with greater knowledge of what the church expects) so I assume it's good advice?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Nov 2012 22:57:07 GMT
Last edited by the author on 7 Nov 2012 22:59:32 GMT
"Christianity seems to have a reasonable set of moral values (if I ignore the bits I don't agree with, which is what everyone else does) so why not just play along?"

You might just as well follow any religion/philosophy then.

"I was given this advice by Christians in positions of responsibility (and with greater knowledge of what the church expects) so I assume it's good advice?"

Assume away.

It is hypocrisy.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Nov 2012 22:58:10 GMT
I.N. says:
Really? There are hypocrites in The Church of Scotland? Who should I report this to?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Nov 2012 23:02:25 GMT
Last edited by the author on 7 Nov 2012 23:03:45 GMT
Whomsoever you feel it would be appropriate, to do so.

"Who cares", "not me, I never lost control, you're face to face, with the man who sold the world."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ohqo7RIwSY&feature=fvst

Posted on 8 Nov 2012 07:56:50 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Chjristian? A new Nordic religious sect, perhaps?

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 18:28:07 GMT
Spin says:
K; Ha ha! Bravo. You should be on stage...

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 18:33:40 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Oh I know. But I am half Norwegian, so it looks nordic-ish. Like fjord, Bjork, etc...

K

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 19:44:38 GMT
Spin says:
K; "Half" norwegian? I spent a few years of my teenage years in Bergen. The Norwegians are very odd people...=)

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 21:50:54 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Luckily I'm only half odd.
K

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 21:56:20 GMT
Spin says:
K; That means you are half even..=) All seriousness aside, though, I can see why certain "right wing" views could gain popularity in Norway, Sweden and Finland...

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 21:58:52 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Can you?

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 22:01:16 GMT
Spin says:
K; Yes. But then, I have a bad habit of thinking about things...

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 22:09:51 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
I've managed to kick that habit.
K

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 22:10:38 GMT
I.N. says:
"Spin says:
I have a bad habit of thinking about things..."

I'd never noticed. Has anybody else?

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 22:16:01 GMT
Spin says:
K: I could say something about that, but I won't. =) I'm too nice.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 22:17:28 GMT
Spin says:
IN: Don't worry. "Thinking" is not something recognised by a majority of the righteous...

Posted on 8 Nov 2012 22:28:18 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Norwegians seem to have a liberal and relaxed attitude to religion though, having attended my nieces confirmation earlier this year. At the age of 17 they are given the choice of a religious or humanist ceremony, with the emphasis on their culture and national costume. Most opt for a humanist based celebration with speeches, songs and music.
K
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