Jesus - Alien from another world or, perhaps a parallel universe?

Assuming that Jesus actually existed and that he performed some or all of the "miracles" attributed to him; could he not have simply been a visitor from another planet or (in accordance with current quantum physics theories) a parallel universe?

Assume, as well, that his messages of peace and love, compounded with a disdain for authorities...church and state; could his origin have been, not heaven, but a sociologically and technologically advanced civilization?

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Ultrarunner - I don't disagree. In fact, that he may have been a "minor jewish philosopher" is probably the most likely scenario.

Even though I think the Bible to be a fictitious document, front to back, it would seem to me that "someone" said many of things that have been attributed to Jesus, which supports the minor philosopher argument.

If that is true, then it could also have been true that his philosophical teachings were too advanced for the people of his time and could substantiate the argument that he came from "somewhere" beyond their (or, even our present day) scope of understanding.

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kraka - I don't know that I would call it a "pet theory", but it is (for me) an interesting theory; so much so that I wrote a book about it.

There's been a lot of discussion among physicists about quantum physics theory. QPT is nothing new, it's been around at least since the 1940's (perhaps, even earlier), but there has been interest, of late, in how quantum physics, in particular the "multi-universe" theory, might be able to explain some of the mysteries of life after death and spirituality (the existence of a "physical spirit" within the body).

Throughout the history or mankind, there have been periods of great leaps forward...the bronze age, the iron age, the industrial revolution, et al; and, throughout these era's there have been men and women with almost supernatural abilities leading the way. Philosophically speaking, there have also been a large number of people who have "known" things, heretofore unknown. Where did these people learn what they knew? Perhaps they "knew" because of a connection with another (advanced) universe or perhaps they "knew" because they were in complete contact with their spiritual entities that, many believe, connects to all things throughout the universe(s).

So, I am not a religious person, in that I do not believe in the Christian, Muslim or Jewish ominiscient gods. I'm also of the opinion that organized religion, in all forms, has been largely responsible for many of history's most vile atrocities and has created an atmosphere of fear and subservience among all people.

I DO, however, believe that people such as Buddha, Jesus and the many philosophers who have come and gone, had "connections" that enhanced their enlightenment and that they tried to spread that message (teaching) to the masses. A large number of scientists (Leonardo, Galileo, Newton, et al), too, have had some kind of inherent "knowledge" that enabled them to create, invent so many technological advancements that have countered religious dogma to the extent that they were persecuted, excommunicated, imprisoned and killed because of their theories and inventions that were in contravention with religious beliefs.

Lex says :-
"A large number of scientists (Leonardo, Galileo, Newton, et al), too, have had some kind of inherent "knowledge" that enabled them to create, invent so many technological advancements that have countered religious dogma to the extent that they were persecuted, excommunicated, imprisoned and killed because of their theories and inventions that were in contravention with religious beliefs. "

1)"I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those who were inspired. I study the Bible daily." - Sir Isaac Newton

2) " When I consider what marvellous things men have understood, what he has inquired into and contrived, I know only too clearly that the human mind is a work of God, and one of the most excellent." -Gallileo

3) "Finally, being old, he lay sick for many months. When he found himself near death he made every effort to acquaint himself with the doctrine of Catholic ritual." -Vasari about Leonardo
"He died on May 2, having received the sacraments of the Church with so many of whose teachings on the history and character of the natural world he had disagreed."

Which of these were 'killed' because of their 'theories and inventions'?
Also name the 'large number' of scientists killed please.

Lex: Was Ghandi an alien too? Buddha? Moses? Mohammed? And what about the evil guys ? Surely "unusual" thoughts include immorality as well as morality? Was Hitler an Alien? Stalin? Thatcher?

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Light: And Einsteins "Relativity" proved that the earth also revolves around the Sun. Nothing is constant and "true". All consciousness experiences is "relative".

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DB - My bad in the wording of the sentence that included "and killed". Certainly none of the scientists mentioned were killed; the Church couldn't afford to do that.

As to Newton: Historian Stephen D. Snobelen says of Newton, "Isaac Newton was a heretic. But ... he never made a public declaration of his private faith - which the orthodox would have deemed extremely radical. He hid his faith so well that scholars are still unravelling his personal beliefs."[6] Snobelen concludes that Newton was at least a Socinian sympathiser (he owned and had thoroughly read at least eight Socinian books), possibly an Arian and almost certainly an anti-trinitarian.[6] In an age notable for its religious intolerance, there are few public expressions of Newton's radical views, most notably his refusal to take holy orders and his refusal, on his death bed, to take the sacrament when it was offered to him.

And, Galileo: While Galileo was indeed a religious man, he disagreed with Church dogma and, after agreeing with Copernicus that the earth revolved around the sun, he was brought before the Church for trial (heresy) and sentenced to house arrest for life. He ultimately committed suicide.

Leonardo: Vasari's biographical essay (1550), which said, "his (Leonardo) cast of mind was so heretical that he did not adhere to any religion, thinking perhaps that it was better to be a philosopher than a Christian."

Spin - Could've been...;o) Moses? No, he never existed, but Buddha and Mohammed, certainly. Evil guys, too...uh, "Thatcher"?

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Ultrarunner - Completely agree! There were, in fact, many traveling or wandering philosophers in Jesus' time and I think he was one of these. Paul saw an opportunity to cash in and he took it...hook, line and sinker...lol.

Still, I'm impressed with the quotes and the overall teaching attributed to Jesus (not Paul). Whether Jesus actually said and taught these is anyone's guess. Perhaps they were a collection of several different philosophers. Surely, the great philosophers that we know of today weren't the only ones around. Like musicians, only a few make it to the big time.

My composite theories on this are, essentially, fiction; because...well, I write fiction and thought that this would make a great story...;o). I think that all great stories are a combination of fact and fantasy. Of course, there are exceptions...many, in fact. I probably should have said, "For me, great stories are a combination...."...lol.

Spin - I agree!

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Yes Jesus was definitely an alien and probably from a parallel universe as well, its a good job he got nailed up when he did, I mean who knows what kind of trouble left-wing alien scum like that could have caused.I suggest we start a thorough purge of anyone with subversive views like Jesus,Buddha,Allah etc,as well as anyone with above average intelligence or shifty look about them.These "clever" people are obviously getting their information from demonic realms or advanced alien civilisations (they may be the same thing).I mean everyone knows "intuative knowledge" is the cover that evil inter-dimensional agents use to pass off their unusal ideas...its complete lies.
Its damn obvious to me that this is some sort of intergalactic conspiracy to destabilise planet earth with religious icons, and I anticipate the arrival of the crab people any time now who will take advantage of our spiritually confused state and use us as a protein source.

nicholas hargreaves: I like that comment, and predict the crab people will be here by Tuesday next!

light - absolutely, and when these deists mention the word or term god, they aren't talking about the Christian, Muslim or Jewish gods. In particular, the founding fathers (US) went to great lengths to separate church from state. One of the "freedoms" they sought when leaving England was the freedom of religion.

It was really not until communism that American politicians started using christian terms.