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Initial post: 26 Jul 2013 08:09:50 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 Jul 2013 08:14:40 BDT
http://news.sky.com/story/1120128/wonga-archibishop-aims-to-end-payday-lenders

http://news.sky.com/story/1120531/wonga-church-of-england-funding-link-found

Not exactly on a par with the Vatican, and the hundreds of millions it received from Nazi war criminals through the Holocaust, but yet another example of Church hypocrisy.

Posted on 26 Jul 2013 08:48:03 BDT
Heretic says:
Maybe a campaign to end credit altogether might be a better goal.

I remember talking to one of those poor sods in a call center recently about consolidating my debts. He found that it was strange that someone had reached the grand old age of 55 and not have any debts. Having said that I am struggling with the bedroom tax, but I am not alone in that.

I remember the big campaign that there was for a minimum wage. We now need that to be raised to the level of a 'living wage', this would reduce the need for credit. Maybe the banks might then lend to industries.

Is it my imagination or do I remember something in the Old Testament about usury (wiki says that Usury is the practice of making unethical or immoral monetary loans. Depending on the local laws or social mores, a loan may be considered usurious because of excessive or abusive interest rates. According to some jurisdictions and customs, simply charging any interest at all can be considered usury.)

SWH

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Posted on 26 Jul 2013 12:21:33 BDT
DB says:
Catholic Money spent -

1137 Hospitals

5375 Dispensaries

184 Lazarets

184 Houses for the old and chronically ill.

1285 Orphanages

2037 Gardens for childhood

1673 Places for family counseling

2882 centres for mental health education

1365 institutions to assist the poor

67848 Maternal schools

93315 Primary schools

42235 secondary schools

1968828 High school students assisted

3088208 University students assisted.

forbes/guidestar 2012

It's sad that your prejudice does not allow a balanced view of religion.
The Archbishop is going to do something that helps the poor. It may not be how you would have done it, but it will help the many poor in our country who are being ripped off by loan sharks. Each small thing makes a difference.

Posted on 26 Jul 2013 12:31:57 BDT
Snowyflake says:
It's just another way for the Catholic church to make money. Not sure that's prejudice, just an awareness of the large stakes that catholic organisations are involved in. Why should banking be left out of the Catholic repertoire. All of the businesses on the list are making money. They are not doing it for nothing.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 12:58:17 BDT
Drew Jones says:
"Catholic Money spent -"
Are you sure you have this right? These look more like the number of bodies that were allocated Catholic money not amounts spent.

Posted on 26 Jul 2013 13:12:44 BDT
A Reader says:
In addition to being from the goodness of their hearts, I suspect it also became a cause as the Church do not want to be seen to be outdone or lag behind the high profile Islamic protests against Wonga. Just a thought.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 13:19:41 BDT
Withnail says:
And somehow still manage to make a profit. They must be really milking the poor parishoners

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 13:27:46 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 14:40:41 BDT
Stu says:
Ihave heard so many people say that this new bedroom tax has started to make them struggle for the first time in their generation, but fortunately or unfortunately for myself i only live in a one bedroom flat,i have asked for so many things to be done to improve it as the place is falling down around my ears,54 years old and some of the pipework is the original,but they have never done a thing,then two weeks ago a lady called to see me and at last im havin a whole new bathroom suite then because the workmen come to fix my front door every winter and summer,shrinks in summer expands in winter,im having a shiny new pvc front door too?they even took a look to see what they could do in my kitchen,why all of a sudden the interest in little ol stu?

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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 14:58:57 BDT
Stu says:
it certainly does doesnt it bellatori,now where did i put them lottery tickets

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 15:00:58 BDT
G. Heron says:
stu

With regards to the bedroom tax the government claims it will cause single people to move to houses which have only one bedroom so as to free up multiple bedroom houses for people with families. They seem to have over looked the massive shortfall in houses with only one bedroom so that there is nowhere for single people to move to to avoid the tax.

Posted on 26 Jul 2013 15:06:39 BDT
Spin says:
The bedroom tax will result in a situation that the US suffers; people living in caravans and cabins on the side of highways.

Posted on 26 Jul 2013 15:07:50 BDT
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Posted on 26 Jul 2013 15:09:58 BDT
Spin says:
In a decade or so, the major cities of the UK will have their own "shanty towns".

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 15:13:43 BDT
Stu says:
well GH they cant build high rise big enough and fast enough,its forced council tenants to move into private accommodation,as soon as a flat becomes free in my block the council move in and renovate it completely before the next tenant moves in and i personally was getting a bit p,,d off with this as nothing was happening to mine,i said to them you have to move out first b4 anything gets done

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 15:17:30 BDT
Stu says:
you are right in a way spin it will be a return of the old gypsies

Posted on 26 Jul 2013 15:18:22 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 15:22:39 BDT
Norm Deplume says:
"So not one atheist is willing to acknowledge any good done by the Catholic church.
Am I surprised? Of course not."

Why would you be surprised? Two members of your immediate family are atheists so you must be used to it.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 15:28:21 BDT
Drew Jones says:
"So not one atheist is willing to acknowledge any good done by the Catholic church."
Pardon me but I only questioned your understanding of the figures you supplied.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 15:35:33 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 15:45:39 BDT
Drew Jones says:
OK, next questions arising out of that is how much did the Catholic church put in? Was any contribution counted or did they stump up the whole lot for each statistic? Are these national statistics or international statistics?

Posted on 26 Jul 2013 15:46:32 BDT
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