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Muslims promote Sharia law. Why do Christians not promote their law?


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Initial post: 31 Jul 2013 00:58:54 BDT
Muslims promote Sharia law. Why do Christians not promote their law?

Some Muslim communities run with Sharia law. Other nations with a high Muslim population promote Sharia. It would seem from this phenomenon that Muslim law can be used to run a society as it does so in a few countries.

I know of no country that uses Christian or biblical law and have not heard of any Christian effort to have their law accepted in their nation.

This indicates that either Muslims are more religious than Christians, or Christians know that their laws would never be accepted as the law of the land.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of nations have rejected both sets of religious laws for a more secular approach to law and governance.

Briefly ---

Which of these three sets of laws do you think are superior and why?

Regards
DL

Posted on 31 Jul 2013 02:08:01 BDT
Anita says:
Had to google to get it in English, but hopefully it's correct:

"Do not judge so that you will not be judged."

No idea if there's anything like that in Quran, but that alone should make any Christian law contradictory to the Bible. At least as I read it. So it seems logical to infer that any judgement should be left to God. Surely that makes anything Inquisition-related pretty much ungodly. No verdict can be made by any judge or, even worse, any juror. It is just not allowed.

Jokes aside, I do think that law, court, etc. should be secular, governance too. If church, as an institution, cared more about things spiritual for those who want and need that - and *much* less about things material, the world would be a better place. I think. Let a secular judge send a murderer to prison now and let God send or not send him to hell a bit later, if that is to happen. Neither of the two verdicts is or should be any business of church

Posted on 31 Jul 2013 06:45:24 BDT
J.Yasimoto says:
I'd be a bit worried if Christian law was promoted because I've spent a fair few nights coveting my neighbour's wife. (And his ox ain't half bad either).

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 06:55:55 BDT
Withnail says:
But what about his ass?

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 07:26:20 BDT
Drew Jones says:
"Muslims promote Sharia law. Why do Christians not promote their law?"
This is highly uninformed. Christians like to think of the 10 commandments as their law and try to put them up all over the place, beyond that they take credit for Western political thought as a whole. Then you have African organisations like Kony's LRA trying to install Biblical law.

Posted on 31 Jul 2013 10:11:04 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 10:42:32 BDT
J Doyle says:
> I know of no country that uses Christian or biblical law
It is called Canon Law. What about the Vatican City?

> have not heard of any Christian effort to have their law accepted in their nation.
Canon Law is accepted all over the place. Do you think the position of women in the Church is determined by Civil Law? What about the status of gay clergymen?

Posted on 31 Jul 2013 12:10:45 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 12:39:53 BDT
and the same thing could be said for Judaism and i believe that they do call upon religious law within their communities and pursue certain matters without the need/desire for secular law. this is to be expected with a religion that is pretty much inseparable from culture and is so much a part of daily life. we could also remove religion and just look at culture where the culture is so specific to the group that they feel more comfortable sorting out some matters within the culture. i think it does open up questions about cultures living within other wider cultures. and religious groups living within cultures that do not adhere to their religion. some very very difficult questions.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 13:11:52 BDT
##### says:
"Focusing on Islam and Sharia as such here is mainly because of my experience living under an Islamic regime. However, I strongly oppose Sharia law as well as any other religious based laws because I deeply believe in ***secular, humanist values which put each human being on an equal basis with every other individual.*** International human rights are a testament to that principle and stand directly opposed to the discriminatory practices enshrined in and justified by Sharia law."

I couldn't agree more.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 13:41:37 BDT
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Posted on 31 Jul 2013 14:36:25 BDT
P. Taylor says:
There is an innate problem in the question itself, Muslims promote Sharia law, They shouldn't, Sharia law is not Islamic law it is old Arab law and as such is in conflict with the Prophet's spoken word. The punishment for adultery under sharia law is stoning to death as we all know, but the prophet specifically pronounced the punishment to be public birching. It would appear the clerics would prefer conservative control than devout liberalism.
Reference was also made by one of the contributors to the Hadith, the collection of the prophets spoken utterances on various subjects, but it is now clear that the claim by many Islamic scholars and imams that his words were recorded contemporaneously are untrue. The Hadith instead of being an addition to the 'wisdom' of the Quran is in fact a collection of self advancing statements from Lawyers, judges, imams seeking to justify a specific stance, "As the prophet always said............".

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 14:54:23 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 15:07:56 BDT
G. Heron says:
P. Taylor

"but the prophet specifically pronounced the punishment to be public birching. "

That's all we need another bleeding heart liberal.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 16:21:43 BDT
TomC says:
Franco Carrieri

Do not use these discussion forums to promote your own book. It is both unwelcome and against Amazon rules. From the "Important Announcement from Amazon":

"With the advent of the new (`Meet Our Authors') community, we will no longer allow self-promotional posts in other communities.

Starting on December 15, 2011, all "shameless self-promotion" activity will be limited to the `Meet Our Authors' community."

Put your spam in the "Meet Our Authors" forum. That's what it's for.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/forum/meet%20our%20authors

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 16:23:24 BDT
J Doyle says:
"There is barely no such things a Christian law, as Christian ethics teach forgiveness. Sharia does not."

There is definitely such a thing as Christian law, it just has no jurisdiction over civil affairs in western countries. It was not that long ago that ecclesiastical courts were trying people for simony, heresy, witchcraft, usury and adultery. The punishment was often the death penalty.

Just because Christianity has been effectively defanged does not mean that it was always the impotent beast that it is today.

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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 18:25:08 BDT
Anita says:
Franco Carrieri - it's self-promotion that is shameless (as per the official announcement from Amazon) and not allowed here, and you'd better *personally* move it to an appropriate forum, as pointed out by Tom C.

If you can't read what Tom C wrote (he never described your writings as "shameless"), your writing abilities seem even more doubtful

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 18:29:45 BDT
Anita says:
For shedding a bit of light on your illiteracy: the "we" is from the *quote* of the same official announcement

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Posted on 31 Jul 2013 18:42:02 BDT
Anita says:
Surely, "The Koran is a very poor plagiarisation of the *Koran*"

Surely, the holy trinity was Adam, Eve and the serpent, anyone has any doubts?

Ahh well

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 18:47:44 BDT
Heretic says:
Anita says: "No verdict can be made by any judge or, even worse, any juror. It is just not allowed."

Romans 13 says "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

This says to me that whoever is in control of a country was put there by god (even if they are ungodly) and they are there to reward the good and punish the bad (even if they utterly fail in this regard). Now the law in a country (such as our) requires that the 'good' citizen/subject participate in the judgment of those accused of a crime (but not in sentencing), whether or not a man/woman participates in what we know as the 'jury system' is a personal matter between them, the state and god (or the imaginary-giant-fairy with wings/horns).

SWH

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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jul 2013 18:50:29 BDT
Heretic says:
"Surely, the holy trinity was Adam, Eve and the serpent, anyone has any doubts?"

Could the trinity be Doubt, Fear and Superstition?

:->>

SWH
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