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Initial post: 16 Mar 2013 08:55:25 GMT
According to Jewish Rabbi's 'it cannot be refuted' that the ingredient 'calamus' in the anointing oil in Exodus, ('keneh bosem in the Hebrew) may refer to cannabis. What do the faithful say to this?

Posted on 16 Mar 2013 18:40:09 GMT
Last edited by the author on 16 Mar 2013 18:40:35 GMT
J Whitgift says:
That 'it cannot be refuted' isn't proof that it is the case, mere linguistics and semantics surely prove that. The Dead Sea Scrolls expert John Allegro tried to argue that the Jesus of the Apostles was mediated through the use of magic mushrooms. Therefore you are perhaps better off finding something useful to explore than unprovable theories regarding Hebraic linguistics.

If you are going to try and prove this point, then it would be helpful if you properly referenced it. Saying 'According to Jewish Rabbi's ...' without providing details of who said what is about as helpful as quoting your mate down the pub on Quantum Physics when they're expertise is in shelf stacking. Furthermore, how many non-Jewish Rabbis have you ever met? (Try Googling 'Tautology'.)

Posted on 16 Mar 2013 18:46:49 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 16 Mar 2013 18:59:05 GMT
light says:
Calamus (Acorus calamus) is mentioned three times in the Bible Exodus 30:23, Ezekiel 27:19 and

"Your channel is an orchard of pomegranates with all choicest fruits, henna with nard, nard and saffron, calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense, myrrh and aloes, with all chief spices-a garden fountain, a well of living water, and flowing streams from Lebanon." Song of Solomon 4:13-15.

Calamus was also referred to as "aromatic cane" in the NRSV. It was one of the four oils in the "holy" blend given to Moses to be used to anoint the people, the altar, the vessels and the tabernacle. There is some doubt whether the botanical plant we call calamus today is actually the same plant available to Moses. It is a reed plant that grows in marshy areas. From that description, Moses might have had access to this oil.
The ancient world used calamus as a holy anointing oil and in perfumes and incense. The healing properties are mainly due to the aromatic oil contained primarily in the root. It was esteemed as an aromatic stimulant and tonic for fever, nervous complaints, vertigo, headaches, dysentery, etc.

Today calamus is considered an antispasmodic, anti-inflammatory, and it soothes inflammation of the gastrointestinal tract. It is helpful for asthmatic bronchitis, kidney congestion after alcohol intoxication, cystitis, gout and low blood pressure. Calamus is still current in the British Herbal Pharmacopoeia. It is considered spiritually uplifting as part of a holy anointing oil.

This oil can be used topically over the abdomen for its soothing affect on the GI tract. It can be applied to the temples, brow and throat for spiritual connection and clarity of thought. Calamus can also be used as in incense. This oil is rare and hard to find and generally not used except in blends.

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In reply to an earlier post on 16 Mar 2013 19:29:05 GMT
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Posted on 16 Mar 2013 19:30:03 GMT
Does it matter if Cannabis was used ?

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Mar 2013 19:31:43 GMT
James Smith says:
So what exactly is your point Nicholas ?

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Mar 2013 19:46:45 GMT
light says:
Maybe he's trying to say that the ancient priests used cannabis to experience God. One of the ladies I help has a hand lotion which has Hemp listed as one of the ingredients. I've read elsewhere that Hemp oil may have been used in the Holy Oil, but that doesn't mean that they were getting high from putting it on their foreheads.

Posted on 17 Mar 2013 02:59:50 GMT
I think the scholars who wrote the bible obviously smoked a bit.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Mar 2013 08:08:51 GMT
Garscadden says:
I'd agree, but... 'scholars'? Yeah, right :)

Posted on 17 Mar 2013 10:27:28 GMT
J. Forbes says:
I suspect they smoked or chewed Khat.

Posted on 18 Mar 2013 09:25:23 GMT
Dan Fante says:
I reckon several passages within the Bible could be explained by the imbibing of hallucinogenic substances. The burning bush, Ezekiel's 'wheel within a wheel' and so on.

Posted on 18 Mar 2013 09:32:43 GMT
Ezekiel's 'wheel within a wheel'

...Never ending, nor beginning ...

Posted on 18 Mar 2013 10:17:55 GMT
Dan Fante says:
I've just had a check of the Bible and not only can I commit adultery but me and the lady involved are supposed to get stoned afterwards.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Mar 2013 10:22:08 GMT
kraka says:
Kodokushi

says, "Ezekiel's 'wheel within a wheel'......Never ending, nor beginning ...

Read your post heard it playing in my mind, can't stop it.

Thanks..........i'll have circles in my mind all day now

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Mar 2013 15:16:24 GMT
"not only can I commit adultery but me and the lady involved are supposed to get stoned afterwards. "

Some of the women I've been with...you had to get stoned beforehand.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Mar 2013 18:17:00 GMT
Pipkin says:
Still chewed by Middle Eastern men?

"What are some consequences of Khat use?
"Common side effects include anorexia, tahycardia, hypertension, insomnia, and gastric disorders.
"Chronic Khat abuse can result in symptoms such as physical exhaustion, violence, and suicidal depression.
"Widespread frequent use of Khat impacts productivity because it tends to reduce worker motivation.
"Khat can induce manic behaviors, hyperactivity, and hallucinations.
"There are reports of Khat-induced psychosis.

My friend really objects to her Husband using this.
Wonder why the Government havn't realised they could make it an illegal sybstance????? Appears to have all the hallmarks of weed.

Posted on 19 Mar 2013 03:53:44 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2013 09:04:26 GMT
Dan Fante says:
The immediate effects are somewhat different to weed.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2013 09:05:55 GMT
Last edited by the author on 19 Mar 2013 09:29:57 GMT
Dan Fante says:
That's why I said 'hallucinogenic substances' rather than weed. I find the spaceship explanation slightly less plausible than that.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2013 16:00:18 GMT
Pipkin says:
You know from experience? :) You little tinker.....

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2013 16:09:15 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Well, I've never tried actually tried Khat but the described effects, particularly its being a stimulant and the reduction in appetite in a user are pretty much the opposite to cannabis. Neither drugs seem particularly dangerous in comparative terms though (i.e. when compared to other narcotics). So you might say it's half from experience, half from a little research ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2013 16:20:10 GMT
Last edited by the author on 19 Mar 2013 16:20:56 GMT
Pipkin says:
Ah, I wonder if this is what used to be in herbal slimming pills? They used to send people loopy and caused heart irregularities..

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2013 20:38:36 GMT
Depends which strain of cannabis you use I guess though, one type (I forget the name of it) is used in some countries to get workers the motivation to ...well... work.

Khat's ugly.

Posted on 19 Mar 2013 21:22:51 GMT
Spin says:
A society reliant on coffee, alcohol and paracetemol discussing the use of drugs in achieving an awareness of deity....
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