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Women Bishops; A new era for the Church?


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Initial post: 13 Jul 2014 17:01:23 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2014 17:22:17 BDT
Norm Deplume says:
Why do you consider sexual equality a distinctly female issue?

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2014 17:25:37 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2014 17:39:57 BDT
Spin there is more than one question there and I think you need to realise that the church has split... many many times over issues more trivial than that (like whether a king can get a divorce).

If you are referring to CoE, then there is no issue with contraception, they already know where they stand on abortion and that isn't going to change and women bishops should be allowed (and archbishops also), though I suspect that might take longer to progress (unless it has already passed, I've not been paying attention).

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2014 17:46:19 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2014 18:08:02 BDT
Do you really think so. I think that it will be business as usual. The church is concerned with things of the church and the sex of an individual should have little or nothing to do with it. As I said contraception is not an issue and the few female vicars I have had a chance to talk to or read about have the same views on abortion as most of their male colleagues.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2014 18:11:41 BDT
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Posted on 13 Jul 2014 21:26:09 BDT
Ah. The organized conspiracy.

Again.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2014 21:29:03 BDT
What makes you think that only women bishops would reform the church? I think that Welby is doing a reasonable job already.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2014 21:44:21 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 09:21:06 BDT
So why are you claiming to know what 'women's issues' are?

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 10:42:42 BDT
Dan Fante says:
It's a sad day when you can't even rely on religion to justify your misogyny, eh?

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 16:17:33 BDT
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TomC says:
Oh, please don't encourage him. Now we'll get claims about his deep awareness of the female psyche due to his rare insight and sensitivity.

Well ... that and the fact that he's a woman trapped inside a man's body.

Posted on 14 Jul 2014 16:34:10 BDT
Chris says:
Have enjoyed listening to the objectors on the radio today - their main issue is that they don't trust the church with the proposed safeguards for traditionalist.

Blimey, if you can't even trust your own church!

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 19:00:22 BDT
Who cares...

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 19:17:54 BDT
Perhaps he was a woman once, but had an op.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 19:21:25 BDT
Ah but there's always the bible, or the Koran to reinforce your prejudice of choice.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 19:48:13 BDT
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It's an interesting point and it does seem to be a case of "damned if they do and damned if they don't". I'd certainly like to see religions discard old bigotries and exhibit more tolerance, the problem is their religions claim the doctrine that encourage them to resist such change are moral absolutes from God. Logically you can't have it both ways, can you? Why is everyone who doesn't share you intolerance labelled a lefty or a liberal or both?

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 19:59:55 BDT
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Chris says:
CWB - my double standards?

I'm not religious or anything to do with the Church...merely thouht it ironic that the religious can not even trust their own cult, yet still seek to preach to us.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 20:01:44 BDT
Chris says:
Excellent analysis...seems some parts of the bible are absolute and others bendable to public opinion. That said, I don't think the bible does say anything about women priests or bishops being allowed or not.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 20:12:16 BDT
Last edited by the author on 14 Jul 2014 21:31:13 BDT
1 Corinthians 14:34-35New International Version (NIV)

34 Women[a] should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

1 Timothy 2:11-12New International Version (NIV)

11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet.

>>>It would be difficult for a women to be a priest or Bishop if they were not allowed to speak in church or have any authority over men. Though again I sympathise, since I think such misogyny belongs in the age it came from, and should play no part in a 21st century society.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 20:25:45 BDT
Chris says:
Thanks Sheldon...for the first time I shall not down vote a post quoting the Bible and will be sure to show the Timothy quote to the missus ;)
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