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Initial post: 12 Jul 2013 19:48:53 BDT
old groaner says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 20:01:53 BDT
T. GREEN says:
An atheist believes God was created in mans image, and a theist the opposite (in most cases)

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 20:08:00 BDT
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O.Binladen says:
Why must anyone have evidence for the non-existence of something in order not to believe in it? Every single theist dismisses hundreds of gods, and dozens of versions of their chosen god, what evidence do they have for this arbitrary dismissal of the faith of others, and why doesn't it apply to their own faith?

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the **rejection of belief** in the existence of deities.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 20:15:10 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 20:35:46 BDT
george scott says:
Why have you capitalised 'Atheist'? Your questions imply a single characteristic which applies to all atheists, - if you do not fall into this category -whichever one you choose - you are not a true atheist. I am aware that I am expressing myself badly; perhaps, if I am not writing total rubbish, someone can give a better version.

Posted on 13 Jul 2013 14:43:47 BDT
Stu says:
I personally believe with all the proof that has been given forward,before and since I came onto this forum,that is nil,that no god exists. I am therefore an atheist before and since coming onto this forum,and nothing anyone says will change my point of view as i have i do believe heard every theists arguement for the existence of god and it has been so easy to pick holes in them all to prove my point except to those who are to stubborn to accept anothers point of view

Posted on 14 Jul 2013 06:07:43 BDT
Spin says:
Just as there is no "proof" that Love, Beauty, Justice "exist" but must be accepted in and as a subjective experience (something which cannot itself be "proved"), so the existence of God cannot be proved, but can be experienced. And experience, for the individual, is very real. The person who has not experienced Love, Beauty, Justice etc cannot proclaim these things have no reality just because he/she has not experienced them. So why should they deny the existence of God when they have not experienced deity?

Posted on 14 Jul 2013 08:19:01 BDT
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Theists offer no proof, so in their last resort they try and invent special rules applying only to them.

God is merely a supernatural explanation for purely rational phenomena, and therefore is entirely simple to dismiss.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 10:53:50 BDT
Some atheists simply have never encountered the concept of a god.
Some atheists have encountered the concept but neither accepted it as true nor given it much thought
Some atheists have encountered the concept, thought about it and remain undecided as to the likelihood of god's existence
Some atheists have encountered the concept, thought about it and think it is definitely less likely god exists than god doesn't exist.
Some atheists have encountered the concept and reject it accepting "god does not exist" as the null hypothesis
Some atheists have encountered the concept and believe that the likelihood of their being a thing like a god is so small that they feel confident in the knowledge that no god exists.
Some atheists are indoctrinated in belief systems that take the non existence of deities as an article of faith.

I'm sure there are other types of atheist I have missed.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 11:05:44 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 11:12:55 BDT
Spin you're making a fallacious argument.

Experiencing a feeling is proof that you experienced a feeling. Calling it proof of God is assuming that the feeling inherently shows you the cause.

If I get a sharp pain in my foot and then feel warmth and wetness spread across it while walking across the beach I will assume I have trodden on a sharp stone or broken glass. When looking at the sole of my foot I see it is intact and there is no wound, the glass I thought I experienced is proven unreal.

The pain exists, the glass never did
The feeling exists, the god never did

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 11:25:23 BDT
J Doyle says:
Love, Beauty and Justice are not capable of moving a grain of sand in a desert. If God is of the same substance, how can you claim that it can create the Universe?

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 11:46:20 BDT
Spin says:
Occam; First, Justice, "Rights", Beauty, Love etc are not "feelings" and, secondly, nor are your thoughts. Your thoughts are not the experience of "feeling"; they ARE feeling. You do not experience "thought"; your thought IS experience. Your argument that experiencing a feeling is "proof" that one experienced a feeling, as if feeling was independent of mind, is incorrect.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 11:56:34 BDT
Spin says:
MR J; I disagree. Love, Beauty and Justice have accomplished more than any man or deity. It is these very real ideals that not only help us achieve, but make life better. Love, Beauty and Justice have changed the world. And I do not claim that deity, if it exists, is of the same substance; I claim only that deity is an experiential phenomenon, something that can only be experienced as a whole, not in parts or with conditions. Since it is the experience called love, beauty or justice that created the lived world (at least in some regions of it), then why can't the experience that is called "God" have created the universe?

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 12:08:28 BDT
J Doyle says:
> Love, Beauty and Justice have changed the world.

If you are going to put it that way, then God has for better and for worse also changed the world. This God only works as a motivation for agents. It has no independent agency.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 12:48:48 BDT
Spin, you've once again missed the entire point, i really don't know why i unignored you today.

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Posted on 15 Jul 2013 13:33:42 BDT
Muscovy says:
The clue is in the name: a - theist

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In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 15:27:48 BDT
Tom M says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 15:38:39 BDT
Tom you have used an awful lot of words there to say nothing really. You simply stated that Bellatori is wrong but gave nothing to assert why you believe he/she is wrong

I personally think that Bellatori's approach is a perfectly valid one, I mean we have nothing else to really hold against the likelihood of a devine being of any sort so why is taking the base root of the argument when we have nothing else really to go on a bad approach?

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 15:42:17 BDT
Henry James says:
Bella
Ain't it
Triumph of Hope over *experience*?
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