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Mother beats son to death for failing to learn the quran.

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Initial post: 6 Dec 2012 08:56:09 GMT
C. A. Small says:
In Britain in the 21st century a mother beats her young son to death for failing to learn the quran. The father did nothing to stop the regular repeated beatings of the child.
How can a woman kill a child for not learning bronze age myths?

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 10:21:02 GMT
G. Heron says:
C.A. Small

I would like to think that the mother was suffering from some sort of mental illness, I see in the report in the telegraph there was mention of Jinns, although that still begs the question what was the child's father doing.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 10:26:13 GMT
Yup, mental illness is the only explanation because a mothers love is supposed to be the strongest kind. Again, why the father never saw it fit to intervene is beyond me, perhaps he was trying to learn the quran also to prevent his beating?

Posted on 6 Dec 2012 10:32:58 GMT
I don't know the details of this example yet because I haven't had time to look it up, but mental illness isn't the only explanation. Strong religious/cultural indoctrination is another possibility. Look at all of the so-called honour killings.

Posted on 6 Dec 2012 11:39:57 GMT
Shame, but that's child abuse. Don't think a reason's even needed for some people to do what they do, it just makes a handy excuse.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 11:44:00 GMT
C. A. Small says:
I think mental illness combined with religion is the answer. Given the honour killings, and the islamic predisposition to violence, the absurd demand that the quaran is correct in all things, and the cruelty implicit in the leaders edicts, we should not be surprised at this. An undercover filming at a mosque showed very young boys being hit hard for making mistakes over the quaran. A terrible thing to happen in our country.

Posted on 6 Dec 2012 12:23:08 GMT
Whoever negging these posts needs their heads examined, or obviously condones child abuse. Sick sick %$£s they are. Many on these forums. Disgraceful specimens of life.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 12:25:01 GMT
C. A. Small says:
I think you will find it is posters like GTL, and other theists.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 12:25:43 GMT
I was about to say GTL was probably the father.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 12:27:48 GMT
C. A. Small says:
It would certainly fit the profile.

How a jury let the father off is beyond credence. I hope he gets run over by a steamroller.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 12:37:45 GMT
I don't. I hope he lives a long time knowing that he could have prevented the death of his child.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 12:43:23 GMT
C. A. Small says:
If he cared in any way whatsoever he would have stopped it long ago. No doubt he is back at the mosque chanting and being a good muslim, I doubt he gives the child a moments thought, still with one wife in prison, on to the next one.

Posted on 6 Dec 2012 13:58:48 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
I can't even bear to think of how the child must have suffered, and for how long. There are too many cases of child cruelty at the moment, very depressing.

Posted on 6 Dec 2012 13:59:27 GMT
I'm gonna say it, cus I aint scared, Islam is a horrible religion, breeds terrorists and people who kill in the name of their so called god. I'm not even a racist either but what the hell is the UK doing allowing this stupid religion to operate, I say we oppress and quickly, get rid of these s-c-u-m-b-a-g-s once and for all.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 14:31:44 GMT
Really don't think it's gonna be much of a concern to him otherwise he would have done something about it when it mattered.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 14:32:45 GMT
G. Heron says:
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While I generaly feel all religions areas bad as each other I think that Islam comes with a biult in problem, The quran is supposed to be the word of god dictated to Mohammed. With the bible its supposed to have been inspired by god and I think this leaves it more open to interpretation and has given it a degree of flexibility which has allowed it to develop as society has matured.

Having a holy book that is supposed to be the direct word of god makes it very difficult for the religion to develop and change so what you are in danger of is perpetuating a fossil of the laws, culture and morality of the 7th century middle east and attempting to make the 21st century world fit it

Posted on 6 Dec 2012 16:16:28 GMT
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Posted on 6 Dec 2012 18:43:41 GMT
I always was told to give people a chance in life and historically, I always have. But muslims will no longer get that chance because in my mind, they have made the descision to hate the rest of the world, to submit to stupid out of date doctrine and therefore deserve no respect, freedoms or anything basically. From this day forward I will stare at them in disgust, point and laugh, very much like what they do to the rest of the worlds none-muslim population.

Posted on 6 Dec 2012 18:57:52 GMT
Kinda unfair on the 'normal' Muslim folk though, surely ?

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 19:07:26 GMT
You let me know when you find that normal muslim Kod

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 19:49:08 GMT
Done it. A guy at work. He's intelligent, good at his job, funny, friendly, and the only crimes he's ever going to commit are crimes against fashion.
I may not agree with his religious beliefs, but if I were to condemn him because some Muslims, even a lot of Muslims, are hate-filled idiots then I would not only slide but dive headlong into unreasoning prejudice.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 20:24:54 GMT
There's a fair few in my squadron at work - there are a couple who are pigs, don't think they like being told what to do by a woman tbh different country, mindset, culture, traditions etc But the majority are decent guys.

Posted on 6 Dec 2012 23:06:26 GMT
Last edited by the author on 6 Dec 2012 23:24:36 GMT
Having a religion which preaches hate counters all personal accolades, I'm sure not all of the nazis were vicious henchmen, doesn't detract from the fact the regime was inhumane and vile, but each to their own ey...

The main point though is that having a religion which pretty much encourages violence I find abnormal, so no, I can't accept the above as examples of 'normal muslims', the phrase itself is an oxymoron. To openly dedicate your life to a religion which is even linked with the atrocities Islam is responsible or in some direct way connected to is not normal.

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 00:06:37 GMT
Deleted the nasty one out of respect. You know its the muslim kids who my heart goes out to. They are born into islam and that's that. No choice or alternative. Have the religion rammed down their throat from day one. Fine, that's t
he way it is in the middle east, but not over here. This kind of behaviour stays in the middle east. We don't allow it to happen in a country our forefathers died for in order for us to have a choice. You say I'm slipping into prejudice, I say this country has lost its balls, too many indecisive people who are undecided on everything because they think freedom of speech permits them and anybody else to get away with just about anything but still too scared? Is that the right word?

Beating children routinely, terrorism, hate preaching in numbers - it's organised crime, calling it a religion is not a justification. Am I the only person who thinks along these lines? Am I the extremist? Or am I being reasonable to expect religions to obey the law of the land.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 00:56:46 GMT
TheFoe says:
But what about muslims who live in this country, or anywhere for that matter, that distance themselves from their religious beliefs?
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