Some Parts of the Old Testament Written to Try Us. Try May Have Same Meaning as Test.

True or false maybe ?

Part of The Clementine Homilies.

"Chapter XX.-Some Parts of the Old Testament Written to Try Us

Wherefore every man who wishes to be saved must become, as the Teacher said, a judge of the books written to try us. For thus He spake: 'Become experienced bankers.' Now the need of bankers arises from the circumstance that the spurious is mixed up with the genuine."

Yes indeed, try is a perfectly good synonym for test.

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Luddite Joe,

"Yes indeed, try is a perfectly good synonym for test."

That appeared to be a sensible answer.

Appearances can be deceptive.

Jim Guest,

"Clement was of course no friend of truth."

Have you ever read The Recognitions of Clement or The Clementine Homilies ?

"Those fresh from the demise of Dawkins should not be taken in by these papist dinosaurs."

Maybe you posted to please yourself.

Luddite Joe,

"Appearances can be deceptive."

Maybe.

That's why I said "can be".

Luddite Joe,

"That's why I said "can be"."

Maybe.

Ok. Maybe that's why I said "can be". Maybe...

Luddite Joe,

"Ok. Maybe that's why I said "can be". Maybe..."

Do you want to see more evidence for the topic ?

'Have you ever read The Recognitions of Clement or The Clementine Homilies ?'

Such a windbag deserves no more than a scan. But it doesn't take a scholar to realise why Clement's works do not qualify as Holy Writ, even by those who adore them the most!

Papism must be really desperate if it has to scrape up this stuff.

Jim Guest,

'Have you ever read The Recognitions of Clement or The Clementine Homilies ?'

"Such a windbag deserves no more than a scan. But it doesn't take a scholar to realise why Clement's works do not qualify as Holy Writ, even by those who adore them the most!"

I don't trust your judgement.

"Papism must be really desperate if it has to scrape up this stuff."

If you don't have anything valuable to contribute, why post ?

I don't reason the pope as my bishop.

'I don't trust your judgement.'

As that comes from one who condones every sort of crime known to man, I can live with it.

'I don't reason the pope as my bishop.'

Why is that? He claims to be the Vicar of Christ. Either he's a serious nutter, an evil liar, or the Vicar of Christ.

But you will slime through that, won't you.

Jim Guest says:

'I don't trust your judgement.'

"As that comes from one who condones every sort of crime known to man, I can live with it."

Why do I condone every sort of crime known to man ?

'I don't reason the pope as my bishop.'

"Why is that? He claims to be the Vicar of Christ. Either he's a serious nutter, an evil liar, or the Vicar of Christ.

But you will slime through that, won't you."

I haven't been practising Roman Catholicism.

Why not?

Jim Guest,

"Why not?"

I'm not persuaded they practice what God wants or what Jesus Christ and the apostles taught.

Ratzinger claims to be the Vicar of Christ. Either he's a serious nutter, an evil liar, or the Vicar of Christ.

Which?

All three might be the answer.

To a Small mind. :-)

TK

Your question to Jim "the Pest" Guest which, you will note, he failed to answer was: "If you don't have anything valuable to contribute, why post ?"

The rest of us have been wondering that since Jim first appeared in about March 2011.

We're still wondering.

Jim is still posting.

Thomas: "Try/test"; as in trying/testing our patience? =)

Pendragon,

"TK

Your question to Jim "the Pest" Guest which, you will note, he failed to answer was: "If you don't have anything valuable to contribute, why post ?"

"The rest of us have been wondering that since Jim first appeared in about March 2011.

We're still wondering.

Jim is still posting."

Some of the reasons are a desire to win and a fear of losing.

It appeared to me too that he didn't answer my question.

You may agree, Jesus command is part of the right motivation to answer, you may read it below.

So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Matthew 7:12

New International Version (NIV)

Spin,

"Thomas: "Try/test"; as in trying/testing our patience? =)"

You may look at some evidence below from The Clementine Homilies.

Homily II.

Chapter XXXVIII.-Corruption of the Law.

"For the Scriptures have had joined to them many falsehoods against God on this account. The prophet Moses having by the order of God delivered the law, with the explanations, to certain chosen men, some seventy in number, in order that they also might instruct such of the people as chose, after a little the written law had added to it certain falsehoods contrary to the law of God, who made the heaven and the earth, and all things in them; the wicked one having dared to work this for some righteous purpose. And this took place in reason and judgment, that those might be convicted who should dare to listen to the things written against God, and those who, through love towards Him, should not only disbelieve the things spoken against Him, but should not even endure to hear them at all, even if they should happen to be true, judging it much safer to incur danger with respect to religious faith, than to live with an evil conscience on account of blasphemous words."