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God will not return until we admit that we cannot love him just as he cannot love us.


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Initial post: 17 Jan 2014 16:53:24 GMT
God will not return until we admit that we cannot love him just as he cannot love us.

That would kill our free will.

If we collectively admitted that truth, we could create the end times and elect a new God the way Jesus did via reinterpretation of the law.

St. James said that faith must be shown by works and deeds to be true faith.

I say that those same conditions apply to love. Love must be shown by works and deeds to be true love. Love must be expressed this way from both parties as reciprocity is a sign of love and is also a high moral tenet. Love to be a true love must be shown somehow and God cannot ruin man's free will by doing so.

Do you agree?

Part two.

We all have a system of governance that we follow be we believer or atheist. Believers will name their system God non-believers will be (name of political party). We all give the mental tag or name of (Ideal) to whatever God or political system we all follow.

In terms of moral leadership, even atheists and the weirdest fundamental will have an Ideal in governance that he will follow. We all love our Gods as an Ideal. So to speak.

If the bible and St. James are correct, not only is it impossible for God to love us, --- it also means that none of us can have a reciprocal relationship with our various beloved Gods, and that means we cannot ever truly love God.

Do you agree?

If you agreed, then what are we all going to do about that truth? Are we ready to stop living the lie that we can have a relationship with a God who cannot ever do so?

If so, should we elect a new and real live God figurehead to love? That is what Jesus said would happen.

I will have to choose the honest route and admit that this clip is speaking truth and that God has broken his covenant with man and all the Abrahamic based religions. He did so because he had no choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI

Jesus knew this and that is why he took the right hand of God. He was to be God's last taste of sacrificial blood sacrifice. This is how Final Judgement is returned to men and women.
All we need do is step up and take it as Jesus did.

Are you ready for this? Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

Are you ready to name your God, --- "I am", and mean yourself?

If so, and a large enough number are, then world peace and prosperity is at hand. More importantly, --- we all gain the personal relationship we crave with God. All you need do is choose now as the end time, do the deeds and works required to unify the rest of the elect, and you are there and so would be God.

Regards
DL

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2014 17:02:41 GMT
Have you been eating cheese? I sometimes get bizarre dreams that make no sense when I eat cheese before going to bed.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2014 17:03:49 GMT
Have you been eating cheese? I sometimes get bizarre nonsensical dreams after eating cheese before going to sleep. I don't generally post them in public forums as fact though.

Posted on 17 Jan 2014 17:06:33 GMT
Spin says:
"God" will not return. End of story. There is no being in this world or the next that will satisfy your a priori prejudicial, and human-centred beliefs.

Posted on 17 Jan 2014 22:02:05 GMT
We invented God once and world peace and prosperity is a good reason to do so again.

Regards
DL

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2014 22:12:29 GMT
Spin says:
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Posted on 17 Jan 2014 22:30:18 GMT
Last edited by the author on 17 Jan 2014 22:30:46 GMT
Not me but in the beginning there was less conflict. There was order. That is why the God/King was invented.

Regards
DL

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2014 23:17:30 GMT
Heretic says:
Greatest I am says: "Not me but in the beginning there was less conflict. There was order. That is why the God/King was invented."

Surely it must of been the other way around. The God-King was invented because there was chaos. If there is order then you do not need an enforcer.

Heretic

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jan 2014 14:06:03 GMT
Last edited by the author on 18 Jan 2014 14:07:11 GMT
There must be order to elect the King. No?
I don't think a decent election can be held in a chaotic system.

He maintains it.

I admit though that I could have said it better.

Pardon please. I am French.

Regards
DL

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jan 2014 17:15:09 GMT
Heretic says:
Greatest I am says: "There must be order to elect the King. No? - I don't think a decent election can be held in a chaotic system. - He maintains it."

All that you need is a single breath of order to decide who is King but he will have fight hard and long to extend that single breath into anything more than the chaos that gave it birth.

Greatest I am says: "I admit though that I could have said it better. - Pardon please. I am French."

It is all too easy to forget as it serves you well a lot of the time.

Heretic

Posted on 18 Jan 2014 17:40:44 GMT
Religious and political talking heads come and go.

Some last a while others are blips on the screen.

It is the ideas they bring that are important as they represent the electorate.

The success or failure of any regime is based almost completely on the machine supporting the talking heads.

Regards
DL

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jan 2014 20:49:42 GMT
Heretic says:
Greatest I am says: "Religious and political talking heads come and go. - Some last a while others are blips on the screen."

This is true enough.

Greatest I am says: "It is the ideas they bring that are important as they represent the electorate."

If these ideas are successfully implemented.

Greatest I am says: "The success or failure of any regime is based almost completely on the machine supporting the talking heads."

And again it's all dependent on this machine being able to implement the policies of the "talking heads" while meeting the needs and aspirations of "the electorate".

Heretic

Posted on 19 Jan 2014 17:27:13 GMT
We are on the same page. Sweet.

Regards
DL
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