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Why do people think Satan is bad ?


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In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jun 2013 20:47:10 BDT
Mrs. F. Shaw says:
Why wouldn't he? If I was all powerful, I would stop it. If you were all-powerful wouldn't you stop men raping children, children getting cancer, women being beaten? You know you would. So why does God get a pass when he has all the power?

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jun 2013 20:48:49 BDT
Mrs. F. Shaw says:
Eternal life is the prize for ceasing to think for yourself? Take that away Ecchi and would you still believe in God?

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jun 2013 20:49:32 BDT
Henry James says:
I suspect Yeshua would NOT stop it.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jun 2013 20:52:03 BDT
Mrs. F. Shaw says:
I'm not a saint but I am a good person. I don't need to repent to anyone but those I have hurt or harmed in any way. That's what adults do. They rectify their mistakes, they apologise and make it up to the person. When I die, I will hopefully have lived a good long life with the love of my family and lots of laughter and few regrets.

Eternal life singing praises to God sounds like hell to me. No thanks.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jun 2013 21:23:05 BDT
Last edited by the author on 25 Jun 2013 21:24:23 BDT
Henry James says:
Mrs Shaw: Eternal life singing praises to God sounds like hell to me. No thanks.
HJ: We're having an all-night party tonight at my house singing praises to Henry James's novels? Want to join us?
Bring a bottle of absinthe: should be a riot.

Posted on 25 Jun 2013 22:00:14 BDT
Mrs. F. Shaw says:
Hang on, Henry, while I get my wellies on.....

Posted on 25 Jun 2013 23:02:01 BDT
Read the book of job, Satan is an accuser. He forces mankind to go against God and demands that god allow suffering to show true faith or rebellion in a persons heart. Basically he doesn't want people going over to God and will do anything to keep people away through lies, violence, censorship, fraud, distraction, fear, envy, perversion of good, insanity.. you name it. He doesn't work for God, he works against him although ultimately God made his plan of salvation possible by making the evil known and conquering it through Jesus. Lastly hell is punishment for Satan aswell, he will be utterly powerless and have no authority whatsoever. God won't allow him to get away with being responsible for all the death, suffering and evil present in the universe

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jun 2013 23:15:11 BDT
Spin says:
BA; immoral folk do not "work against God". Nor do moral folk work for God.The last thing on ones mind in terms of morality is "god". One acts as the person one is, not as the person one wants to be. If a theist is moral only because of his belief in Deity then he is not a Theist. And if an immoral person acts only to defy a God then he is, in fact, a theist. God and Satan are excuses for the morally weak..

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 00:05:01 BDT
TomC says:
Drama could not function without its villains. Satan is as necessary to the old testament myths as Judas is to the new. He's an essential part of the plot - a bit like General Zod in Superman.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 00:08:10 BDT
I suppose you would tell an alcaholic he didn't make the decision to stop drinking because he wanted to be healthier and free from addiction but he made the decision to quit drinking because he is a alcaholic, or a thief who finds God mid life and makes the decision to stop stealing because God says it is wrong that he didn't make the decision to stop because of God but merely because he is a thief? Regardless of whether you think an action is against God or for God matters little to a deity who has already decided and declared it such. You are saying there is no morality in the universe, only actions that have good or bad consequences? What if a greater intelligence already foresaw the consequence and then in hindsight declared an action moral or immoral based on whether it had a good or bad consequence? You cannot decide what is moral or immoral because you are not God

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 00:14:05 BDT
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AJ Murray says:
Do you really think it moral to mindlessly to take orders from another? Take a hypothetical:

I have a neighbour. His name is Bob. Whenever i am faced with a moral decision i ask Bob for guidance and follow his advice. Bob has never let me down, and his decisions always seem to work out for me. Even when it look like he gave bad advice, given time, it works out for the best. Bob is my objective standard for morality. Bob knows best.

Am i really being moral in transferring all my decisions to some other person instead of tackling them myself?

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 00:19:48 BDT
T. S. C. says:
'Tom C says:

Drama could not function without its villains. Satan is as necessary to the old testament myths as Judas is to the new. He's an essential part of the plot - a bit like General Zod in Superman.'

Well that's one way of putting it I suppose!

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 03:03:08 BDT
Henry James says:
BA
You describe a morally infantile stance.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 09:21:23 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 Jun 2013 12:43:45 BDT
Yes, I've already written that I haven't been Christened or Baptised. So if whatever 'prize' comes after was that important to me, then I would have done something to ensure it.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 09:22:18 BDT
"Eternal life singing praises to God sounds like hell to me"

Why do you think that that is what Heaven is ?

Posted on 26 Jun 2013 11:21:25 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 11:52:10 BDT
AJ Murray says:
-"And in your 'balanced' judgement, being infected with Siphillis/Aids/Hepetitus (and the rest) due to committing sodomy in a public lavatory is the hight of moral decency, is it?"

When did you do that C.W.Bradbury?

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 17:55:51 BDT
O.Binladen says:
"C. W. Bradbury says:

And in your 'balanced' judgement, being infected with Siphillis/Aids/Hepetitus (and the rest) due to committing sodomy in a public lavatory is the hight of moral decency, is it?"

I don't judge, but if you'll take a little advice Bradders, there are clubs you can go to. Safer for you.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 19:40:00 BDT
Mrs. F. Shaw says:
So you believe because you haven't been baptised or christened you won't go to heaven? What do you think happens when you die?

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 19:41:02 BDT
Mrs. F. Shaw says:
What do you think heaven is like? I'm sure the bible mentions the heavenly host singing praises malarkey somewhere.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 19:44:12 BDT
Mrs. F. Shaw says:
CW, no offense, but you probably shouldn't be doing that in a public lavatory. God knows what you will catch in there.

Would making homosexuality a crime and perhaps a capital offense be the height of moral decency? Perhaps, we could flog them a little first before we kill them? There are countries that do this. You might want to move to Uganda if that's your picture of moral decency.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 19:44:46 BDT
O.Binladen says:
Well hypothetically, if I had my choice, it'd involve god tutting and rolling his eyes, then laughing at all the theists gullibility, while he and the Atheists played a hand or two at cards over a sociable drink.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 21:36:32 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 Jun 2013 21:43:55 BDT
Guess I'll be going to Hell unless I do something about it in the meantime.
I've already got a seat reserved at the fireside in Hell with marshmallows and a fine whiskey with some of the folks here !! ;)

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 21:58:16 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 Jun 2013 21:58:33 BDT
O.Binladen says:
Eat the marshmallows, and drink the whisky, while you can, because it's hello darkness my old friend, afterwards.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2013 22:02:32 BDT
T. S. C. says:
'Mrs. F. Shaw says:

CW, no offense, but you probably shouldn't be doing that in a public lavatory. God knows what you will catch in there.'

Let's hope not in a private lavatory either hey?! But horses for courses!
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