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Cardinal O'Brien -the latest in a long list of shamed catholics.


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In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 09:19:43 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
DB - 'Bellatori told the clergy. Nothing happened.'

So what does that tell you?

Posted on 30 Mar 2013 09:19:55 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Anyone else spot that the odious Diane is (as usual) trying to avoid the questions about her church and the vile Ratzinger?

I wonder when she will crawl back under whatever stone she calls home?

I am continually amazed at the intellectual and moral gymnastics required to be a catholic.

I would rather have my nuts nailed to a porcupine than support such a vile and morally bankrupt organisation.

Posted on 30 Mar 2013 09:25:41 GMT
I wonder if Interpol have the ex Pope on their files?

If not, they should.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 09:28:44 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 09:32:10 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 09:32:33 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
DB - nothing hides the fact that you have done nothing about reporting child abuse within the church. Why not? Have you spoken to your priest about it?

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 09:34:12 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
DB - no Diane, it tells me that despite the fact that Bellatori told the clergy about it, the clergy did nothing about it. He didn't keep quiet about it, the clergy did.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 09:37:44 GMT
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Posted on 30 Mar 2013 09:49:13 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Diane- you are still avoiding my question. Odious, stupid woman that you are.

Posted on 30 Mar 2013 09:49:42 GMT
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Bellatori says:
The sanctimonious, self-righteous and contemptible Diane says
"I leave legal matters to legal people .."

which is, apparently, OK for her but not, so it would seem, for me.

I can look back at myself at 23 with a certain satisfaction. Given I was looking for teaching jobs (my first) at the time this was quite a big deal to raise as an issue. Whilst I have never thought of it in these terms, until Diane started her crusade, I had not reflected that what I did required quite a bit of moral courage.

It is a shame that Diane has had to show herself up in this way. I once read a story (I think it was in Dune) where they described the fact that drowned seamen were often found with boot marks on their shoulders. Apparently this was where another drowning man had tried to reach the surface by standing on the other fellow.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 09:54:47 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 10:08:10 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Can you read? I answered your question. Clearly and unambiguously.

You have not answered the question, and if you genuinely think you have you need to go back to school.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 10:10:27 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 10:11:06 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
DB - Bellatori addressed the issue at the time. He put his faith in those concerned to sort it out. They didn't. What would you have done differently? You may not have witnessed abuse within your parish (as far as you know), but you've known about it in other parishes, cities, countries - have you spoken out yet? Why not? I think you are kidding yourself if you believe you would have had the backing of the church and the police if you'd reported child abuse within the Catholic Church 40 years ago. I should imagine you'd have been ostracised.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 10:12:05 GMT
Bellatori says:
I repeat

The sanctimonious, self-righteous and contemptible Diane says

"I leave legal matters to legal people .."

which is, apparently, OK for her but not, so it would seem, for me.

I sleep just fine at night in the knowledge that I did not turn a blind eye. How do you manage to sleep? You failed to do anything other than a three wise monkeys impression, and, to make matters worse, are trying to palm off your guilt at your failure by dumping on someone who did do something.

Shame on you for your hypocrisy.

Matthew 6:5 ""And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."

Describes you to a tee.

Posted on 30 Mar 2013 10:14:26 GMT
C. A. Small says:
I do wonder how Diane sleeps at night.

Her avoidance of the tricky questions gives me a mental image of someone limboing under a paving slab.

Posted on 30 Mar 2013 10:15:35 GMT
Bellatori says:
In the thread God does not exist (4) Paul D seems to be going through a long litany of Diane's behaviours. Diane is trying to vent her spleen in that one too but does anybody actually care? No I rather thought not.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 10:17:01 GMT
Bellatori says:
There was a brief time when I actually had a certain sympathy for the way she gets treated. Funny that. I cannot for the life of me remember why?

She is, however, a perfect catholic.

Posted on 30 Mar 2013 10:18:34 GMT
Roma says:
Please,Diane, I abhor the name calling you are receiving but this personal attack on Bellatori must stop. He did more than most people would have been brave enough to do and, sadly wrongly, believed he could trust the authority figures to deal with the matter appropriately.
Cheers, Roma

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 10:21:23 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 10:22:45 GMT
Bellatori says:
Roma, don't give it a thought. I did what I thought was right at the time and I am not going to feel guilt because a contemptible and hypocritical idiot start trolling me. Thanks anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2013 10:23:42 GMT
C. A. Small says:
She has repeatedly shown herself to be as dishonest as it is possible to be. Any approbrium heaped on her is richly deserved.

Anyway- it is sleeting here- how's the sun? Have a chilled beer for me, some olives and fresh bread, and don't let the vile, daft old bat get you down.

Cheers, Clive.

Posted on 30 Mar 2013 10:30:45 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Time to exercise the ignore button?
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