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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2012 21:14:02 BDT
gille liath says:
For goodness' sake...does not anyone on these threads not think they are not the answer to the world's knots?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2012 21:27:53 BDT
Spin says:
Gile: We all have the answer to individual and social problems. It is the answers that cause the problems...

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2012 21:38:29 BDT
gille liath says:
If you do not master your rage, your rage will become your master...

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2012 21:40:30 BDT
AJ Murray says:
Are you deceiving us?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2012 21:58:18 BDT
Spin says:
Gile: I do not rage, I question.. It is you guys who rage against questions, not I..

Posted on 27 Jul 2012 22:34:07 BDT
A Dyson is another vacuum cleaner I've had a problem with. It is efficient, but so cumbersome.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2012 22:56:15 BDT
AJ Murray says:
It takes two to tango gille.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2012 23:06:04 BDT
gille liath says:
I wonder. At any rate it takes only the slightest leavening of Christianity to keep a host of atheist officials busy. It's like having three traffic wardens for every car.

Posted on 27 Jul 2012 23:12:44 BDT
Last edited by the author on 27 Jul 2012 23:14:15 BDT
Spin says:
But then, an Atheist will argue that intentional killing is wrong... That loyalty in marriage and freindship is of value..Why? The atheist argument for morality....Not heard on these threads...

Posted on 27 Jul 2012 23:50:36 BDT
Spin says:
Come on, all you who are so sure of your opinions..Tell us why the atheist morality is justified, if indeed there is such a thing as an atheist morality...

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jul 2012 11:32:34 BDT
Reasonable question. I have already asked it, but let's see what they come up with.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jul 2012 11:35:49 BDT
C. A. Small says:
Spin- this has been answered so many times it is just boring. 0/10, try again.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jul 2012 15:50:25 BDT
your definition:-

"The neo-atheist is someone who isn't content to believe that God doesn't exist; he has to go and remonstrate with anyone benighted enough to disagree. He has the disposition of the natural traffic warden: someone who isn't content unless they're interfering in the lives of people who are simply trying to mind their own business. Without him, this forum wouldn't exist."

Dictionary definition.

neo-atheist - no dictionary results

If you think it is other than a pejorative word and definition invented by theists, then that is your issue.

Without traffic wardens, this country would grind to a complete standstill.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jul 2012 19:02:33 BDT
Last edited by the author on 28 Jul 2012 20:19:53 BDT
gille liath says:
No, you're mistaken. It's simply a term that distinguishes the new evangelical atheists from the old type that was willing to live and let live. You want to pretend there's no such distinction - that you don't recognise the picture I painted - you go ahead.

You're right about traffic wardens, as I already said, and I wouldn't want anyone to get the impression that I think they're as pointless as neo-atheists. It's just an analogy. There was about as much truth in it as in your two-word definitions of various religions - not more, and certainly not less.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2012 08:34:51 BDT
C. A. Small says:
Gille "they're as pointless as neo-atheists."- really? Someone has to value intelligence, coherent thinking, science, and evidenced based knowledge, because it sure isn't theists.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2012 11:19:24 BDT
AJ Murray says:
gille,

-"I wonder."

You replied didn't you?

-"At any rate it takes only the slightest leavening of Christianity to keep a host of atheist officials busy. It's like having three traffic wardens for every car"

Also Islam, Ghosts, virbating crystals, homeopathy, past lives all manner of nonsense. Do i have to remind you that it's a religion forum gille, a place were opinions on what people belief can be discussed.

Sometimes it really isn't all about you.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2012 11:22:11 BDT
AJ Murray says:
gille,

-"It's simply a term that distinguishes the new evangelical atheists from the old type that was willing to live and let live."

You mean those silent atheists that don't say anything, you have no problem with those atheists, but as soon as anyone raises an objection or utters the slightest criticism you view *that* as somehow wrong gille?

-"You want to pretend there's no such distinction - that you don't recognise the picture I painted - you go ahead."

I don't recognise your description. It sounds to me like you've invented a convenient label that allows you to dismiss any and all criticism.

Posted on 29 Jul 2012 11:26:47 BDT
Last edited by the author on 29 Jul 2012 12:21:16 BDT
gille liath says:
I can always rely on you guys to prove how wrong I am. He said wryly...

I don't have a problem with anyone's beliefs, I've said that time and time again. I just wish you guys would stop pretending you're performing some kind of public service on here, with your ridicule and insults. Contrary to what Sam said earlier, you are not 'good', and religion is not 'evil'; and even if it was, arguing about it on here would achieve nothing. Let's be honest: the reason you come on here is (and I have to choose my words carefully) they made male-hen fighting illegal.

I also wish you would realise that having placed yourself on the side of self-proclaimed rationality does not automatically make anything you personally say rational. Far from it.

PS. AJ, underneath the usual vituperation that first post sounds almost like a compliment. Careful - don't go all mushy on me...

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2012 11:33:35 BDT
Hello cas

I have made another thread called science in the quran 2 and hope to see your opinions

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2012 11:34:36 BDT
Hello Mr. Murray

I have made 2 threads on science in islam and have been looking forward to your contribution

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2012 12:23:57 BDT
Show me a dictionary definition from a reputable source.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2012 12:30:51 BDT
gille liath says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2012 12:44:08 BDT
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Drew Jones says:
I see the disctiction you are aimming for, I just don't think it reflects well on you. You are basically forming a perjortaive for people voicing a specific opinion counter to theism to the extent you are made aware of it (for that is what you think is new to atheism) and I can't think of anything else you would form a such term for on a similar basis.

Basically you are showing you're happier not being reminded that your beliefs are not shared, and I can imagine why that is beneficial given the nature of them.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2012 17:31:16 BDT
AJ Murray says:
gille,

You sound so jaded. So set in your ways. I take the opposite view about these discussions since we can be reasonably sure that anyone taking part; a)owns a computer; b)is literate; and c)likely to take an interest in the subjects under debate. They probably have sufficient time to think about questions and consider their replies too. So at the very least a modicum blend of skills, intelligence and knowledge are present before posting.

Any frustration on my part only arises from revising my initial over-optimism.

I think you do have problem with people's beliefs and i don't think anyone with conscience could reasonably say otherwise. We care what someone believes because it informs their actions. If someone believes that there is such a thing as race, for example, they can act racist. I certainly have a problem when i perceive someone's belief to be harmful and i don't see you as being quite so blasé in the same situation. You seem to have issues with these 'neo-atheists' that you believe you have identified. So i cannot believe you when you say you don't have a problem.

-"Contrary to what Sam said earlier, you are not 'good', and religion is not 'evil'; and even if it was, arguing about it on here would achieve nothing."

Could you quote me where i have ever declared myself 'good' or religion to be 'evil' because that sounds like a rather simplistic black and white thing to say, and not like me at all.

-"Let's be honest: the reason you come on here is (and I have to choose my words carefully) they made male-hen fighting illegal."

Is that why *you* are here? To watch your Cock? To cockyour snook perhaps, whilst going off half-cocked.? People may have a variety of reasons for participating, not least because it might be *interesting*.

You can learn stuff.

-"I also wish you would realise that having placed yourself on the side of self-proclaimed rationality does not automatically make anything you personally say rational. Far from it."

I don't think i've ever made the mistake of declaring everything i write to be taken as Gospel.

That would be kinda arrogant.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2012 17:46:40 BDT
Show me an internet dictionary definition, from a reputable source.

You'll struggle, I've checked. It's a term used exclusively by journos and Christian fundamentalists.
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