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Posted on 29 Apr 2013 20:07:10 BDT
Spin says:
Women, of any age, are the most beautiful creatures on this rock. Their bodies dance, their minds sing and they have one hell of a left hook.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Apr 2013 20:10:57 BDT
Roma says:
Hi Bellatori

Thanks for that. A true hero. As Brecht said, though, "Unhappy the land that is need of heroes."

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Apr 2013 20:13:26 BDT
Roma says:
Hi Like it. Orwell says something like this in 1984. "Why should the rose be regarded as less attractive than the rosebud." (Not an exact quote, I'm sure.)

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Apr 2013 20:15:39 BDT
Bellatori says:
Your husband is a man wise beyond his years...

Heinlein wrote some very witty aphorisms about women. I hope you will like them...

"God created men to test the souls of women."

'"I came, I saw, she conquered." The original Latin seems to have been garbled." '

"A woman is not property, and husbands who think otherwise are living in a dreamworld."

but one of my favourites is

""Women are amazing creatures-sweet, soft, gentle, and far more savage than we are.""


Thousands on

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Apr 2013 20:20:01 BDT
Roma says:
Hi Margaret
I wonder what it is that allows people to recognise us even when they haven't seen us for years and, in our own eyes, and in reality, we have changed so much. A women came to speak to me at the weekend. I didn't know her but she addressed me by name. From the conversation, I could tell that she knew me from primary school but knew nothing of me since. I would say that there's nothing distinctive about me and that the only thing the same about me is the colour of my eyes, so how she recognised me I don't know.

Big mistake about the magnifying mirror. One of the advantages of aging is that failing eyesight fails to spot the flaws.

Posted on 29 Apr 2013 20:31:11 BDT
Roma says:
Hi Ryan

I think that there is very likely going to be, not a revolution, but a mass protest, similar to when the poll tax was introduced in Scotland. The vibes at the moment are very similar to what was evident at the introduction of that unfair system. Tommy Sheridan, whatever you may think of him, personally, is a very charismatic leader and he has vowed to fight the benefit reforms as vehemently as the poll tax. There was a meeting of all interested parties in Glasgow at the weekend and they were discussing how best to have these "reforms" overturned. The Daily Record newspaper has also launched a very effective campaign against the cuts and is helping the public to maintain its focus. I do hope there will not be any riots but there must be, and I think there will be sustained opposition, at least in the north.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2013 08:39:41 BDT
Pipkin says:
Hi Roma,
They do say that the eyes are the only things that do not change shape or size from birth. Which I believe can be the only reason. I had the same experience a year or so back, when someone called me by my original name, before my Mum re married and I took his name. This woman was the girl who looked after me when I first started school... I would have been four and a half? In all honesty I didn't recognise her, but remembered her well when she told me her name. She was so supportive and still had such a kind face..
What do they say: the eyes are the window to the soul?
I actually don't mind the way I look..I've always gone to great lengths to take care of myself. I'm always asked how come I have such good skin and bright eyes... and |I put that down to the fact that I have worn make up every day from the age of fifteen and have a very young outlook on life. I've tried always to keep up with the latest things, except I cannot fathom the newest technology; e phones and tablets? I have to rely on my three year old Grandson :+) lol.
Isn't the Spring fantastic? I'm just sitting here watching the birds on the feeders, and my Grandson is reading a book about fish, before we go to Nursery.
Margaret x

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2013 10:18:59 BDT
Bellatori says:
Good for you!! I have just finished building a swing for MY grandson. It is really sunny here in NCL and it is almost warm!

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2013 10:35:00 BDT
Dan Fante says:
I think the most she ever got in an election was just under 44% of the popular vote and that was in 79 when she hadn't actually been in power. Even in 83 when her majority rose sharply her share of the popular vote went down to about 42%. It actually went down slightly again in 87. I know it's the same for all UK governments, due to the 'first past the post system' but the most votes out of the whole of the country was something like 13.5m people. It's a lot but there were always more who voted for someone else. And the early-mid 80s certainly felt a lot more edgy with a lot more overtly political protest than nowadays. Then you had the poll tax riots somewhat later. I wouldn't exactly subscribe to the view that revolution was on the cards but there was a massive feeling of 'them and us' at that time.

Posted on 30 Apr 2013 14:26:32 BDT
A slight tangent to the current discussion (but relevant to the tone of the thread). Nike pay Michael Jordan more in sponsorship money than their entire factory workforce combined. A couple less million for him (I bet he'd still support them) could have massive benefits for the third world sweat shop workers and it would have no impact on the companies profits.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2013 14:45:00 BDT
Pipkin says:
Hi Dan,
As I think I've said previously.. we.. the 'working class' are well and truly stuffed when it comes to electing who we want to Govern us... because there are now too many choices, so our vote is diluted. Whereas, the blues always vote for their blues, and 'rarely' vote anything else.. not enough to make a difference. If we could just get ONE or maybe two choices that would be great, but last time we voted in my village, we had 'ten' choices..... absolutely bl**dy ridiculous..... We are destined to be ruled by the minority the way things stand at the moment, even whith the two cheeks together they barely got a majority? Time we woke up, I think.
I really can't understand why we have to have PARTY politics? For all these people to 'have a party' at our expense. They must be laughing all the way to the bank.
It is so very simple, as I see it. Scrap all the 'parties.' Then the people we vote for, they are the ones elected to Govern? Rather like the patient policy, advisory/consultation thingy at the Hospitals. The name escapes me at the moment. I was asked to join them, but I was too ill at that time... all I know is that it was non political.
I do think there is something brewing, I can feel it in my water, but I hope and pray it isn't violent.. Whatever happens we will be cowed and beaten down by the Police State which was started by Thatcher and is still there....Just as long as they don't think they are going to do what they did in Boston... can you imagine that.? Police knocking your door down without a warrant, or forcing you to stay in your home , lying and cheating, and that is only their Police....
Did you see the witches funeral, how the Police descended on a chap who held up a placard and how all the dissenters were coralled onto one corner? For christ's sake.. this is supposed to be a democratic, free country. Something definitely has to give.
Although it isn't just us, is it? The whole world is on some sort journey. I happen to believe it is the one/new world order staking it's claim. But what do I know?
When a legitimate Government can be blatently villified and lied about to get their resources, or impose the 'world bank' like they did in Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya/Syria and who knows who else... (only the name changes, but they use exactly the same script! They really do take us for dummies, and most of us are,) who knows what they have planned for us. We are only dispensible plebs anyway? Just wait and see what our Government will do if ever any rebels rise up against them.... I'm sure they would just sit back and tolerate Russia or China arming them? Yet they decry Asaad? Get my breath?
I do not believe ANYTHING our Media and Government tell me about other countries... nothing at all. Because I do not have the means to tell if they are lies or not... so I choose to believe non of it!
By the way.... can I advise everybody to stop using Google as a search engine... The f B i are tracking it. Use Duck Duck Go instead.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2013 14:55:48 BDT
Pipkin says:
Very good idea SZJ why don't you propose this to him?

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2013 18:22:11 BDT
Bellatori says:
I have always wanted a 'none of the above' box on voting papers. Any candidate who gets fewer votes than none of the above cannot stand for re-election for 10 years. If no candidate gets more than that then they have to hold a fresh election. Single transferable vote would eventually stop no one being elected...

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2013 14:44:16 BDT
Dan Fante says:
There was a TV programme based on this idea several years ago - Vote for RON (re-open nominations).

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2013 16:30:13 BDT
Bellatori says:
I have been trying to remember Richard Prior and Brewsters Millions. I think that was the film that was a sort of remake of the million pound note. He had to spend a million pounds and gain no benefit from it. He finally spent the money campaining for None of the Above...

In reply to an earlier post on 5 May 2013 13:11:23 BDT
Heretic says:
I don't know if someone was pulling my leg but they told me that in Australia the do have a "none of the above" box on their ballot papers. If "none of the above" wins then the election is rerun with new candidates.


Posted on 5 May 2013 13:17:18 BDT
Last edited by the author on 5 May 2013 18:06:58 BDT
Obelix says:

It's also true that the opposition lost election after election - especially in 1983, when Labour set out to make themselves as unelectable as humanly imaginable, and received their lowest share of the vote since 1918. Hence why the Tories stayed in power.

Posted on 5 May 2013 15:46:54 BDT
C. A. Small says:
Ah Michael Foot, the Worzel Gummidge of politics, completely unelectable as P.M. He reminds me of Miliband.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 May 2013 16:57:46 BDT
Heretic says:
He was too much of an idealist sadly.


In reply to an earlier post on 5 May 2013 17:00:07 BDT
C. A. Small says:
He may have been an idealist, but would never ever have made a PM. How labour voted him as leader is reminiscent of turkeys voting for Christmas- as they have done yet again by voting in the utterly charmless Miliband.

Posted on 5 May 2013 17:04:09 BDT
Last edited by the author on 5 May 2013 17:06:00 BDT
Obelix says:
It wasn't for nothing that the 1983 Labour Manifesto went down in history as 'the longest suicide note ever written.' It also gets my vote as one of the five most appallingly-written books ever published in English. And that list includes 50 Shades of Grey.

Posted on 5 May 2013 17:08:22 BDT
C. A. Small says:
Ryan I hadn't heard that description before, but oh so very accurate.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 May 2013 17:14:57 BDT
Heretic says:
He was the conscious of the Labour party rather like Tony Benn is now.


Posted on 5 May 2013 17:16:23 BDT
Last edited by the author on 5 May 2013 17:17:53 BDT
Obelix says:
Conscience, heretic. To say he's 'conscious' carries the unfortunate implication that all the other members aren't.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 May 2013 17:17:50 BDT
C. A. Small says:
But should never have ben put in any position of responsibility- like Benn. The conscience should be a voice in your ear, not out in front!
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