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The Spiritual Truth - where love is not, truth is a dead letter and profits nothing


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Posted on 10 Dec 2012 13:47:36 GMT
AJ Murray says:
I wonder why those who are copying and pasting are unable to use quotation marks to indicate that they are in fact quoting another source?

Here's an example of a quote, see if you can guess who said it:

"I must confess. I do most of my summer sports and cottaging in the summer."

(Hint; It wasn't Einstein)

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Dec 2012 13:59:06 GMT
Drew Jones says:
Has this person also revealed an appreciation for musicals too?

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Dec 2012 14:19:24 GMT
Lela says:
Sorry Murray, you are arriving a bit late in this post. The source of the OP has already been given.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Dec 2012 15:28:07 GMT
AJ Murray says:
I followed it Lela, you'll notice i even posted on the first page. I just wondered out loud why those who copy and paste whole segments from other sources tend towards defending themselves by caiming they are quoting, when in fact they have omitted the very pertinent quotation marks.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Dec 2012 19:06:04 GMT
light says:
I'm not the one who made it a big deal to begin with. It would have been nice to actually discuss the contents of the op.

Posted on 10 Dec 2012 19:12:11 GMT
Lela,

Does dishonesty come as naturally to you as breathing does to normal people?

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Dec 2012 19:14:50 GMT
There's nothing in the OP worth discussing.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Dec 2012 19:16:14 GMT
light says:
Jones,

"That's not a literal meaning."

To you it isn't, to me it is because there are spiritual aspects attached to it.

"Bet it feels good to know your unselfishly losing your ego for the spiritual journey."

Why thanks, Jones ;o)

"Critical of your ideas but not aggressive. They are correcting you mistakes and poor excuses, that you find them aggressive or negative is because, ironically, the validity of your posts on a public forum is tied to your ego - your opinions fail your ego suffers."

When I see words and statements such as, " it's denigrating our means of knowledge so it can make you feel better about your beliefs that touch nothing at all." Stupid, dishonest, magically, throwing out any idea that please you, throwing out trite quotes...... I take that as aggressive and instigating.

Would you like to discuss the contents of the OP?

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Dec 2012 19:17:02 GMT
light says:
Sorry to hear that.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Dec 2012 19:23:04 GMT
Sorry to hear that you apparently think that there is.

Posted on 10 Dec 2012 19:28:08 GMT
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light says:
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Posted on 10 Dec 2012 20:40:25 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 11 Dec 2012 03:39:30 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Dec 2012 09:54:33 GMT
Drew Jones says:
"To you it isn't [literal], to me it is because there are spiritual aspects attached to it."
This is a good example. Death in it's traditional meaning applies to a physical process whereby life is extinguished from the body indefinitely. If you are borrowing this concept as some sort of end to a lesser part of you, spiritual or otherwise then it is not being used literally but sparingly it is rhetorical. You have appealed to the wrong thing, you make the mistake because you didn't really check to see whether something is metaphorical or literal you just think it an excuse to get you out of a sticky situation. In reality it means something and you can get found out.

"When I see words and statements such as, " it's denigrating our means of knowledge so it can make you feel better about your beliefs that touch nothing at all." Stupid, dishonest, magically, throwing out any idea that please you, throwing out trite quotes...... I take that as aggressive and instigating."
That's a shame. Firstly you were quite happy to see a quote (your quote) denigrating means of knowledge like science and maths but feel it 'aggressive' when the same is said of your beliefs. Second, what this is doing is shutting out criticism and a possible means of learning. Like it or not but we do learn through scarcasm, criticism, satire and other less appealing means. By doing so you are creating a bubble of self-reinforcement that only allows for things that appeal to your ego first. You're looking for yes men, a fellowship of agreement and mutual back slapping focused on how first and foremost things must be lovely when considering what to accept or reject as 'Truth'.

"Would you like to discuss the contents of the OP?"
I'd be happy to but beyond saying it is full of nice platitudes and contains the word 'Truth' quirkily capitalised in the middle of sentences I'm not sure you'd want me to discuss the contents of the OP.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Dec 2012 06:42:41 GMT
Ryan W. - "Plagiarism, Lela, is wrong."

Isn't being plagiarised world-wide the overall objective of opinion formers?

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Dec 2012 07:34:33 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
MLJ - yes, but the plagiarist is required to reveal the source, otherwise it is dishonestly attributing the subject being plagiarised to the plagiarist.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Dec 2012 07:52:32 GMT
Drew Jones says:
Maybe but not at the expense of being sidelined by the plagiarists. Not sure it's the writers ambition either.

Posted on 11 Dec 2012 11:17:56 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Dec 2012 11:21:00 GMT
atheists are free from the shackles of plagiarism. their worldview spontaneously emanates from "reality". And each atheist is divinely and unquestionably unique. a generation of gifted, intellectual entrapenours, no less. Real trail-blazers.

just ... amazing. not a product oftheir environment at all, no siree. not molded by media and institutions and traditions and language, not at all. banish the thought.

who was that pagan poet of yours that said "everything is borrowed"? I forget his name for to cite it. wouldnt want to plagiarize now! that greatest of sins, in a dog-eat-dog world without morals.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Dec 2012 11:20:34 GMT
Spin says:
Glorify: Islam is the spiritualisation of atheism.

Posted on 11 Dec 2012 11:23:32 GMT
how ironic that in a thread about the dead letter of the law, we have incoherent atheists demanding fulfillment of plagiarism laws. my head is going to explode

Posted on 11 Dec 2012 11:32:21 GMT
Spin says:
QED.

Posted on 11 Dec 2012 11:35:38 GMT
hey atheists, tell us more incoherences by which we must abide for no good reason whatsoever.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Dec 2012 12:31:29 GMT
"my head is going to explode"

Promises, promises.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Dec 2012 19:24:14 GMT
MLJ,

Ask yourself how Christianity spread.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Dec 2012 01:04:31 GMT
Ryan W. - "Ask yourself how Christianity spread."

Using muck-spreaders?
But was it the word of Yeshua or of the plagiarists?

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Dec 2012 05:48:46 GMT
light says:
Jones,

I'll have to get back to you tomorrow on this, it's late.

One quick thing:

Me, ""Would you like to discuss the contents of the OP?"

You, "I'd be happy to but beyond saying it is full of nice platitudes and contains the word 'Truth' quirkily capitalised in the middle of sentences I'm not sure you'd want me to discuss the contents of the OP."

You, " Like it or not but we do learn through scarcasm, criticism, satire and other less appealing means."

This is Truth you are speaking, but I also learn from, "nice" ;o)

till tomorrow, light
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