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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 21:06:00 BDT
T. S. C. says:
'Spin says:

Tom: Well, both you and your detractors take pleasure in insulting each other. You do not defend an argument, you simply dismiss, insult and deride. And that is what I call "anti-intellectualism".'

I hate to say this folks, but there is some truth to what Spin says here. A little more respect all around might help things along, and goodness knows even a debate might actually break out!

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 21:06:57 BDT
Snowyflake says:
Tom M

How can one speak of 'reason' and 'realism' when one's belief is not based on reason or realism. You believe in invisible people that know everything about you, past, present and future, created the universe and the world and all the species therein and wrote an immoral book to help guide you morally.

I'm afraid your beliefs are so far removed from reality it's not funny. Why do you believe in God? Why? Why do you worship him unquestioningly? Why do you believe something written in a 3000 year old manuscript of dubious origin, translation and transcription? Why?

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 21:07:34 BDT
Snowyflake says:
No. We are opposed to pseudo-intellectualism of which you are the poster child, Spin.

Posted on 26 Jul 2013 21:09:00 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 21:10:32 BDT
T. S. C. says:
'Bellatori says:

...in 'The Awful Truth' thread you got Plato mixed up with Aristotle and Plato's Forms with Aristotle's formal cause...'

I have to say, I'm always doing that as well! My mates are always telling me 'you're always getting Plato's forms mixed up with Aristotle's formal cause' and how we laugh! Get another round in I always say.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 21:14:28 BDT
Snowyflake says:
Because believers decide that homosexuality should be a crime, that homosexuals should be killed for their sexual orientation. That ID is a valid theory that should be taught to impressionable children in science classes. Because believers think that women cannot control themselves and should be covered head to toe so no one can see them. Because believers think that thieves should have their hands cut off and adulterers should be stoned to death. Because believers think their belief is the ONE TRUE religion and all others are therefore false. This stance automatically puts a Roman Catholic in opposition to a Protestant as we see in Ireland, it puts a sunni against a shia, it puts a Sikh against a hindu. That is the harm it does to society.

If you all just shut up about it and worshipped on your own, that would be fine. But no, you've got to preach and proselytise to the whole world because your religion is RIGHT and your god commands you to get converts.

Atheists are opposed to falsehood. Agnostics, it appears, are ok with it.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 21:22:21 BDT
"Atheists are opposed to falsehood. Agnostics, it appears, are ok with it."

That is a pearl of wisdom to add to the collection.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 21:23:09 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 21:56:06 BDT
Snowyflake says:
No. You're too tiresome. You expect everyone to listen to your arguments but you make no effort to listen to anyone else's. You jump to conclusions, twist people's words and you don't admit when you're wrong. You pretend that 'agnosticism' is the preferred position and all other views are 'wrong'. You swap sides between theists and atheists like Benedict Arnold or Lord Warwick.

I don't need to prove your foolishness. You are doing quite well proving that all on your own, my friend.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 22:01:30 BDT
Heretic says:
Well said, although you are getting very close to showing how you feel and that is only allowed for religionists here.

:->>

SWH

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jul 2013 22:04:39 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2013 05:24:14 BDT
Drew Jones says:
"The result , ignorant bigots who are very funny to watch when Oxford's Kenny tries to explain what 'simple' means..."
You're misquoting a debate you were unable to follow again 'Tom'. Lenny wasn't explaining what simple meant, he gave an example to explain what simple can do - that it can out perform the complex. Trouble was that the distinction was applied to tools that had complexity i.e. human intervention added.

Just letting you know. You carry on regardless as is your want.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2013 09:38:56 BDT
Snowyflake says:
Get over yourself, Spin. Come back down to earth, get off your self-imposed pedestal and stop thinking you are better than everyone else. This site is not your personal podium to spout your own beliefs either. Now, I have apologised for yesterday on another thread so let's just leave it and I will be more careful in which of your posts I choose to respond to. Is that fair?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2013 12:21:10 BDT
##### says:
Talking of fragile beliefs and ignoring posts, you've repeatedly ignored my question about your post claiming that human sexuality is a fluid thing and not carved in stone. I asked you, Tom, if you might one day turn into a gay man? Do prove to us all now that you're not exactly the kind of narrow minded bigot you're condemning in this post by answering my question, thank you.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2013 12:21:51 BDT
##### says:
What is the evidence that a mermaid does not and cannot exist?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2013 12:22:37 BDT
##### says:
Please provide us with evidence that no mermaid, unicorn or leprechaun of any kind can exist.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2013 12:25:20 BDT
##### says:
You've responded to a post by asking a question that has actually been answered in the content of the post you've responded to, why?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2013 12:27:56 BDT
##### says:
You're on fire Mrs S.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2013 15:32:37 BDT
I'm not trying to be rude Drew, but the phrase is: 'As is your wont', meaning customary with you. The word wont is not the same as want I believe, being an archaic literary form rather than an actual voluntary action. The difference could be significant.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2013 15:55:36 BDT
Drew Jones says:
Oh yeah. My mistake. And correcting someone isn't being rude.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jul 2013 02:51:40 BDT
Garscadden says:
Your argument relying on physics, as per another thread:

Spin:
"It was only "relatively" =) recently that the theory that time passes at a different rate on earth and in space was verified. Our GPS systems, unknown in Einstein's time, rely on this recently verified fact."

Me:
GPS does not *rely* on this, it has to *correct* for this - atomic clocks on the satellites appearing to run faster causes problems. The system relies on the clocks having the same time as each other, and a receiver using trilateration to calculate it's position. If the clocks were not corrected for then trilateration would be far more problematic."

Spin:
Voyager completed it's mission decades ago.

NASA:
Voyagers Extended mission is ongoing

(Okay - that last isn't physics per se - it's more just comprehension and ability to read)

Posted on 28 Jul 2013 12:05:08 BDT
Stu says:
got that spin

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jul 2013 16:30:03 BDT
Spin says:
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Posted on 28 Jul 2013 17:08:07 BDT
Anita says:
Spin - do you enjoy that? Quarreling about something you lack ability to start to understand? So well, if you really like to demonstrate publicly that the only purpose of your head is to keep the ears apart, it's up to you.

I won't argue about GPS, because *I* don't know enough about them. I suspect Garscadden possibly knows about them about as much, as Spin doesn't know, but for lack of my own education in the field I'm not going into that topic.

Voyagers though. Something *I* know about, not as an expert, but not as Spin either.

QUOTE!!!!!:

Mission Characteristic

The Voyager Interstellar Mission (VIM) is an extension of the Voyager primary mission that was completed in 1989 with the close flyby of Neptune by the Voyager 2 spacecraft. Neptune was the final outer planet visited by a Voyager spacecraft. Voyager 1 completed its planned close flybys of the Jupiter and Saturn planetary systems while Voyager 2, in addition to its own close flybys of Jupiter and Saturn, completed close flybys of the remaining two gas giants, Uranus and Neptune.
<...>
This interstellar exploration is the ultimate goal of the Voyager Interstellar Mission. Both Voyagers are headed towards the outer boundary of the solar system in search of the heliopause..."

etc.

By *NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory*, not by Garscadden. I'll just repeat the link he gave elsewhere:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/interstellar.html

So:
1. NASA calls it "extended mission", Spin disagrees. :)
2. NASA directs Voyager 2 to explore Uranus and Neptune, but according to Spin it is "wandering off"

Well done, Spin. This clown's show of yours wasn't so bad

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jul 2013 17:11:14 BDT
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