Shop now Shop now Shop now  Up to 70% Off Fashion  Shop all Amazon Fashion Cloud Drive Photos Shop now Learn More Shop now Shop now Shop Fire Shop Kindle Shop now Shop now
Customer Discussions > religion discussion forum

staunch defenders of evolution theory: allergic to the present day?


Sort: Oldest first | Newest first
Showing 51-75 of 153 posts in this discussion
In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:12:48 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Why would an intelligent God design so many stupid people?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:16:23 GMT
jealousy does not come into it since it would entail that what this society deems as success is anything but vanity and fool's gold coveted by the brainless.

the trophy half-naked bimbo wife. the unbelieving tribe's acclaim.

leading to reproduction, and just more of the same unbelief, darwinism and oppression of the small by the great.

But you obviously see that as "the pinnacle" and something to covet. Therefore insinuate that it is something to be deeply desired. Dont you?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:17:36 GMT
Ian says:
"It (darwinism)gives no real choice to believe in anything different with regards human origin,"
Now we get to the cause of your anger - you want your religion to be taught in schools as fact?
Teach what you like and believe what you like about human origin to whoever you like, scientists and science teachers will continue to teach what there is evidence for.

"present process of so-called "natural selection","
Again, believe what you like about natural selection, but it's helpful to all of us if microbiologists, pharmacologists, etc. continue to believe in what there is evidence for.

"and your ultimate destination." The theory of evolution by natural selection has nothing to add here.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:18:21 GMT
[Customers don't think this post adds to the discussion. Show post anyway. Show all unhelpful posts.]

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:20:48 GMT
[Customers don't think this post adds to the discussion. Show post anyway. Show all unhelpful posts.]

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:21:13 GMT
Ian says:
"you say "evolutionary success" is determined by offspring? Well, indirectly. Also determined by being able to adapt to environment. which in a present day human context (note: present-day), (and where darwinist theory pervades), that generally means, vaguely,

unbelief and capitalism.Do you disagree with anything above?"

All of it.
Evolutionary success is purely down to passing on genes to future generations. If you really want to apply Darwinian theory to human society then a rich man with no children is a failure. A poor many with many children and grandchildren is a success.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:25:19 GMT
Ian says:
I fail to see how responding to your statements is changing the subject. You seem angry that "Darwinism" gives no choice to believe in anything different with regards to human origin. Is this not true of all ny evidence-based belief? If you want to believe something different that is your choice; if you want to persuade others that you are correct (or at least not a nutcase) and then you would need to provide some sort of evidence that your hypothesis is better than the widely accepted theory. It has been done before, many time; but in the case of science, always on the basis of evidence. where is your evidence for whatever theory of human origin you prefer?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:25:36 GMT
[Customers don't think this post adds to the discussion. Show post anyway. Show all unhelpful posts.]

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:27:57 GMT
Last edited by the author on 28 Jan 2013 10:28:39 GMT
[Customers don't think this post adds to the discussion. Show post anyway. Show all unhelpful posts.]

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:42:34 GMT
G. Heron says:
glorify the LORD

"let's talk about what happens when society as a whole believes darwin is the final prophet. "

I don't know of anyone who thinks Darwin was a prophet. What he was was a very great thinker and scientist.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:53:54 GMT
Last edited by the author on 28 Jan 2013 10:56:52 GMT
[Customers don't think this post adds to the discussion. Show post anyway. Show all unhelpful posts.]

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:58:00 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Plenty fit into both categories. As this thread demonstrates.

Posted on 28 Jan 2013 10:59:41 GMT
Ian says:
Can I add my voice to those others in the wilderness crying; "What is TULIP?". I googled it and discovered TULIP is the largest producer of pork in the UK, but I'm guessing that's not what you mean?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 10:59:58 GMT
[Customers don't think this post adds to the discussion. Show post anyway. Show all unhelpful posts.]

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 11:03:02 GMT
TULIP from wikipedia. The five points of Calvinism:

*"Total depravity," also called "total inability," asserts that as a consequence of the fall of man into sin, every person is enslaved to sin. People are not by nature inclined to love God but rather to serve their own interests and to reject the rule of God. Thus, all people by their own faculties are morally unable to choose to follow God and be saved because they are unwilling to do so out of the necessity of their own natures. (The term "total" in this context refers to sin affecting every part of a person, not that every person is as evil as they could be).[27] This doctrine is derived from Augustine's explanation of Original Sin.

*"Unconditional election" asserts that God has chosen from eternity those whom he will bring to himself not based on foreseen virtue, merit, or faith in those people; rather, his choice is unconditionally grounded in his mercy alone. God has chosen from eternity to extend mercy to those he has chosen and to withhold mercy from those not chosen. Those chosen receive salvation through Christ alone. Those not chosen receive the just wrath that is warranted for their sins against God.[28]

*"Limited atonement," also called "particular redemption" or "definite atonement", asserts that Jesus's substitutionary atonement was definite and certain in its purpose and in what it accomplished. This implies that only the sins of the elect were atoned for by Jesus's death. Calvinists do not believe, however, that the atonement is limited in its value or power, but rather that the atonement is limited in the sense that it is intended for some and not all. Hence, Calvinists hold that the atonement is sufficient for all and efficient for the elect.[29] The doctrine is driven by the Calvinistic concept of the sovereignty of God in salvation and their understanding of the nature of the atonement.

*"Irresistible grace," also called "efficacious grace", asserts that the saving grace of God is effectually applied to those whom he has determined to save (that is, the elect) and overcomes their resistance to obeying the call of the gospel, bringing them to a saving faith. This means that when God sovereignly purposes to save someone, that individual certainly will be saved. The doctrine holds that this purposeful influence of God's Holy Spirit cannot be resisted, but that the Holy Spirit, "graciously causes the elect sinner to cooperate, to believe, to repent, to come freely and willingly to Christ."[30][unreliable source]

*"Perseverance of the saints" (or preservation) of the saints (the word "saints" is used to refer to all who are set apart by God, and not of those who are exceptionally holy, canonized, or in heaven) asserts that since God is sovereign and his will cannot be frustrated by humans or anything else, those whom God has called into communion with himself will continue in faith until the end. Those who apparently fall away either never had true faith to begin with or will return to the faith.[31]

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 11:04:20 GMT
Last edited by the author on 28 Jan 2013 11:08:49 GMT
G. Heron says:
glorify the LORD

Why is it so difficult for you to grasp that Darwin's theory of evolution is a scientific theory, no more no less? It has nothing to do with religion other than the fact that some religions have a problem with it.
Its a theory supported by an enormous amount of evidence. It is not a religion, it is not a belief system, its not a doctrine.

Posted on 28 Jan 2013 11:05:15 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Don't knock Calvinists. This time next year you might be one.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 11:05:43 GMT
Ian says:
Well that's very disappointing; I'm going to make myself a TULIP bacon roll.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 11:06:27 GMT
easytiger says:
[Customers don't think this post adds to the discussion. Show post anyway. Show all unhelpful posts.]

Posted on 28 Jan 2013 11:07:58 GMT
Just replace the word "god", for "Alan Sugar", and TULIP is basically the outline of The Apprentice. the "saints" are the unbeliever apprentices idolaters.

It's like a blueprint for sustaining capitalism. Calvin was a complete Jinn.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 11:11:30 GMT
Just because there's evidence, does that mean we have to blindly adhere to it? There's evidence of all sorts of things that doesn't mean its a righteous thing. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Become a darwinist and strive hard to be a capitalist, and "god" (alan sugar) shall have mercy on you. Unless you're not a gorilla or you are not a bimbo. In which case "god" reserves the right to dispense of you in his trash heap.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 11:12:57 GMT
G. Heron says:
glorify the LORD

I think you are giving an excellent example of how religion rots the brain.

Posted on 28 Jan 2013 11:13:20 GMT
Last edited by the author on 28 Jan 2013 11:17:59 GMT
(cont.) "you obviously weren't one of the [so-called] elect. tough luck. Good luck in hell."

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 11:14:21 GMT
Last edited by the author on 28 Jan 2013 11:16:29 GMT
trying to call a lynch mob after me? It's not going to work. I love death as much as you love life.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jan 2013 11:17:37 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Give over with the persecution stuff. You're one of the biggest attention-seekers on here.
[Add comment]
Add your own message to the discussion
To insert a product link use the format: [[ASIN:ASIN product-title]] (What's this?)
Prompts for sign-in
 


Recent discussions in the religion discussion forum

  Discussion Replies Latest Post
Announcement
Important Announcement from Amazon
154 12 Aug 2015
Is President Trump right. Should we ban all Muslims and start deporting them in large amounts until they can prove they can accept civillisation and modern practices. I'm sure we all like history but the dark ages were the dark ages. 297 7 seconds ago
Morality and ethics. 389 5 minutes ago
The Power of Prayer. 2012 8 minutes ago
Gay habits and God. Smokers and the devil. 69 20 minutes ago
Does Christianity make any sense? 429 8 hours ago
you should all..... 5 12 hours ago
Evolution is a scientifically provable fact. 3383 12 hours ago
Remain or Leave? 558 13 hours ago
goblueresurrection is an atheist, slumming it. 22 1 day ago
I thank all the imaginary gods for Jihadists. 157 1 day ago
Book (Snapping of the American Mind) shows Harvard tests showing parental neglect causes homosexuality 883 1 day ago

More Customer Discussions

Most active community forums
Most active product forums

Amazon forums
 

This discussion

Discussion in:  religion discussion forum
Participants:  18
Total posts:  153
Initial post:  26 Jan 2013
Latest post:  30 Jan 2013

New! Receive e-mail when new posts are made.

Search Customer Discussions