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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Apr 2013 20:41:48 BDT
K. Hoyles says:
Ian - I reckon it's not what it says, but how it's said - read in a reverential voice as if reading a sermon and it can be quite convincing. Or shout it out TV evangelist style. Try it! It also works with the telephone directory.

Posted on 26 Apr 2013 22:06:35 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 26 Apr 2013 23:32:04 BDT
K. Hoyles says:
' We'll all find out one day, one way or another, won't we?'

Yep, you could have just written that.

Posted on 27 Apr 2013 00:05:18 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 07:41:44 BDT
C. A. Small says:
I wish I had read that last night- it would have cured the insomnia.

Why do theists equate producing long boring drivel with relevance?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 07:42:44 BDT
C. A. Small says:
Since you seem to be a scientist- shouldn't you go on the evidence?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 08:31:29 BDT
Drew Jones says:
"However, surely it is equally possible that an all-powerful being. 'GOD' to you & me, created this world, maybe just a few thousand years ago with an apparent age, & the result is the current world we have!"
The odd aren't equal but a creator that sets everything up to look old when they are not, puts the fallout of events that never happened in place is a god out to decieve you. How can you make an informed gamble like the appeal to Pascal's wager you make at the end with a god like that? Isn't it equally possible that he only makes it look like you have a chance of escaping his hell?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 08:39:13 BDT
Heretic says:
Drew Jones says: "However, surely it is equally possible that an all-powerful being. 'GOD' to you & me, created this world, maybe just a few thousand years ago with an apparent age, & the result is the current world we have!"

Do you realise what you are saying?

You are saying that the god that apparently gave us the ten commandments etc created a multi/uni verse with an apparent age?

So the whole entirety of existence is a lie told by god to man! I can't see why god would be bothered to lie to us as a wait to someone that exists outside of time is not an issue!

SWH

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 08:49:12 BDT
Drew Jones says:
Do you realise what I was saying? The bit you are attributing to me was a quote.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 08:53:05 BDT
Christianity was founded on Peter.

My father for some reason felt sorry for Nero, saying 'poor Nero'. I mix him up with Caligula, who really was a fruit-cake. Nero fiddled while Rome burned, but we all make mistakes. I don't know much more about him.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 08:56:46 BDT
Heretic says:
My apologies

SWH

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 09:00:27 BDT
First. What is the 'evidence' you are talking about? Writing the piece last night gave me something to do for my insomnia.
Secondly. Is insulting people with snide, asinine, comments the best you can come up with? I am glad to be called a Theist, at least I know what I believe in! & at least my long boring drivel had one good effect, that of annoying you!
Thirdly. If you bothered to exercise your brain once in a while & wrote something a little better than your comments as above, you just might turn into a decent thinking, human being rather than the bitter, shrivelled person you are now.
Fourthly. I was obviously under the mistaken belief that, provided one mostly followed the rules, you had a free voice, on these forums, that is of course provided it didn't upset the locals or go against what they say. Obviously I was wrong! so I'll leave your forums to yourself, so you can still go round and round in your silly circular arguments, stating that God does not exist, or does He``````````````. You hope!!
Fifthly. If you are the best that these forums can come up with, then God help them, 'cos no-one else can.

Regards

John Bates BSc (Hons).

Posted on 27 Apr 2013 09:08:12 BDT
According to Wikipedia, a lot of the tyrannical acts attributed to Nero are disputed, and he was popular with the common people within his rule. The rumours, admittedly widespread, that he had started the fires in Rome are also disputed.

Posted on 27 Apr 2013 09:09:00 BDT
Thanks for telling the world, in that last post, all it is ever going to need to know about you, WJB.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 09:12:49 BDT
Drew Jones says:
Bye then.

Posted on 27 Apr 2013 09:26:10 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 09:36:39 BDT
Bellatori says:
"I'll keep swimming against the tide, It's more fun that way!" It is also how you end up at sea and drowning...

Bellatori BSc(hons) MSc MSc MEd MSc BA(hons) MRSC CChem CSci etc...

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 09:44:52 BDT
Heretic says:
John Bates BSc (Hons). says " I am glad to be called a Theist, at least I know what I believe in! "

Some of us are on an exciting journey of discovery where there are exciting new experiences around every corner. This is possible because we have not made up our mind as to what is 'out' there before we set off. New truths are only available to us because we allow them space and time, didn't Jesus say something about this? "Mark 2:22 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles."

John Bates BSc (Hons). says "so I'll leave your forums to yourself, so you can still go round and round in your silly circular arguments, stating that God does not exist, or does "

I bid you peace and goodwill on your journey, or if you decide to stay I wish you peaceful arguments aplenty with people that challenge everything so that we are all tried like gold in a crucible so that which is not worthy of ourselves is destroyed.

SWH BSc(Hons).

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 09:49:31 BDT
Drew Jones says:
"Many scientists choose another path, that of attributing a vast age to the world, universe and everything."
And you admit that the evidence suggests this only add the caveat that it is unreliable evidence put in as a kind of 'gotcha' test by a deity.

"In that way God becomes redundant, so why are we having this discussion?"
The god is redundant not the discussion, and the discussion ends if and when a premise is agreed upon. Do you accept God is redundant?

"Who made up (created) the rules for the various sciences? Inc"
This shows a gross misunderstanding of scientific methodology. The means put in place have been refined because they produce the most effective and reliable at predicting reality. No one decided how things were going to be and formed a group of like minded individuals to see that the set ideas were maintained.

It is ironically your presuppositional apologetics you are characterising science as in order drag it down to your level and render it impotent. Correct me if I'm wrong but you hope for more than a epistemological dead end.

"No thanks, I'll keep swimming against the tide, It's more fun that way!"
You're not swimming against the tide, you're suggesting everything is arbitary. You've gone nuclear in epistemology to set yourself up for the slight of hand you hope to now do.

Posted on 27 Apr 2013 09:50:13 BDT
Lexi says:
John Bates etc.
"We'll all find out one day, one way or another, won't we?"
That can only happen if we all come back from the dead and that doesn't figure in my reasoning.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 10:51:45 BDT
K. Hoyles says:
WJB. BSc (hons) -'Drew, maybe so, that is your 'take' on this. I choose to believe that the world was created as it is now, just a few thousand years ago by God.'

You have made a statement on a discussion forum and wish to leave because we don't agree with you. Is this the debating method you are used to?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 11:07:06 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 11:17:57 BDT
Last edited by the author on 27 Apr 2013 11:21:47 BDT
Nothing to do with theist cowardice, their inability to back up daft statements, their noted tendencies to sulk, their total refusal to deal with the real world, then...?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 11:19:23 BDT
Drew Jones says:
The insults fly both ways so that can't be it. Probably more to do with the idea of the supernatural being untenable.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2013 11:22:41 BDT
C. A. Small says:
Nero fiddled whilst Rome burned- was he a catholic priest by any chance?
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