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In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 20:24:58 GMT
Last edited by the author on 28 Mar 2013 20:26:11 GMT
Henry James says:
Spin my Brother
You severely misinterpret my eloquent words.
I profoundly realize the "affect," and the "effect", of my life on others.

And thus I am infinitely far from "dismissing actually living a life."
Why would one dedicate one's energies to decribing humanity's struggles, as I did in my writing, if one did not take it with the utmost seriousness?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 20:27:15 GMT
Littleriver says:
HJ: Thanks for a comprehensive response! Although I have personally never before encountered the belief that Mormons are Christians. They deny Jesus is "the exact personification of Almighty God and teach 'salvation through works' rather than grace, I believe?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 20:29:28 GMT
Henry James says:
CL
Your description of the "impossibility of adequately describing the glory of a true conversion"
reminds me of the hippies in the 60s
who described the impossibility of adequately describing the glory of an LSD trip.
I am sure both you and the Hippies are telling the truth. But it has no bearing on whether your "glorious experience" really contained truth.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 20:31:18 GMT
Last edited by the author on 28 Mar 2013 20:33:09 GMT
Henry James says:
CL
It is the equivalent of American Evangelical Deliberate Ignorance to deny that Mormons are Christians. (I hope you do not consider this inarguable proposition to be "impolite").
Like other Christians, they believe that Jesus is the Christ. Their savior.
(I say this as a true Atheist Buddhist Jew).
It *would* be intellectually respectable (though not for long) to say "I don't know if they are Christians."

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 20:46:35 GMT
Littleriver says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 20:57:13 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Spin - no, you are not a 'Buddhist'.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:01:54 GMT
Henry James says:
CL: in your heartfelt post you note "There are many like me who have a one-to-one relationship with Father-God "
I have a one-to-one relationship with a Mother-God. Does that count?
My Muslim friends do not believe in the Christian God. Do they count?
My Jewish fellows SURELY do not believe in the Christian God and theology. Do They count if they have a relationship with THEIR God.
I have a relationship with the eternal principles of Buddhism. Does that count.

Oh, by the way, can you give us ONE example of a "clear, un-relative truth?" I haven't ever been able to find anyone who can.

Love you politely.
Henry

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:02:14 GMT
Spin says:
K; No. Of course not. I do not fit in with your stereotype of foreign beliefs, do I?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:02:52 GMT
Henry James says:
Karen - U B correct. Spin my brother definitely NO buddhist. love him tho.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:10:09 GMT
Spin says:
Henry: "The wise who are trained and disciplined shine like beacon lights. They live as a Bee gathers honey without harming the flower" (Digha Nikaya)

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:11:39 GMT
Henry James says:
Spin
U Bee a Buddhist after all!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:19:11 GMT
Spin says:
Henry: No. As I have made clear numerous times on these threads; I am a student of the path. I see the sign-posts but have not yet actually found the path.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:21:44 GMT
Littleriver says:
HJ: Mm...good point. A LSD trip is a true experience for the one having the trip - chemically induced or not, it IS real but passes until the next time. My 'glorious experience' of walking with the living God has lasted 33 years n counting!

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:25:13 GMT
Littleriver says:
HJ. I AM

Posted on 28 Mar 2013 21:25:25 GMT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:26:17 GMT
Littleriver says:
Spin: that's nice.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:28:34 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
CL.B - I didn't miss your point. As I've mentioned before on this forum (I won't bore everyone by repeating myself), close members of my family experienced the 'conversion' you mention, and after many years of soul searching I came to the conclusion that the concept of Christianity, or any other religious belief, resides within the mind. Which is why it is impossible to put into words. One fundamentalist poster described her love for Jesus as a romantic love. In real life relationships, romantic love eventually fades and is replaced by acceptance, companionship, a different kind of love. The enduring 'wonder' you describe, seems like an attempt to hang on to the romance of a relationship. Why? Do you believe you're a better person than someone who doesn't share your passion? If so, what does that say about you as a person?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:33:51 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Spin - I know, because a close friend of mine is a Zen master, and there's a Buddhist monastery near where I live. Of the Buddhists I've met, they are nothing like you.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:36:31 GMT
Henry James says:
CL
you say "I AM" (are you God???)
BUT
you have NOT given us an example, even one,
of a "clear, un-relative truth."
And don't say God.
My God, and Ahmad's, and my mother's, is VERY different than yours, and hence completely "relative."
Your "clear un-relative truth" is meaningless and non-existent.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:37:17 GMT
Henry James says:
Spin
I, too, have never met anyone ANYTHING like you.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:50:29 GMT
Spin says:
K; And what makes you think Zen has anything to do with Buddhism? And what makes you think that anglicised "Buddhism" (Western "Buddhism) has anything to do with the original teachings of Buddha? Please explain.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:53:00 GMT
richard says:
someone mentioned Jaffa cakes but i haven't seen any yet.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:53:55 GMT
Genn says:
I believe it's because of personality specifics. There are people - atheists, religious, etc - who like arguing. Ones such person is interested in being atheist or religious, he/she enjoys fighting the opposite point of view.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2013 21:55:49 GMT
richard says:
that ticks you off the suspected vampire list then. :-)

Posted on 28 Mar 2013 22:00:54 GMT
Spin says:
Vampirism and Cannibalism; Is that not the basis of the Christian belief in the "Sacraments". This is my Body, This is my Blood.."
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