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Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian


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In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2013 12:19:39 GMT
A better summary of Christian Fundamentalism than the OP

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2013 19:30:25 GMT
Spin says:
GM; Nobody can, or will, provide a definition of deity that stands up to examination. Hence the use of words like "Perfect", "Ominiscient", "Omnipotent" etc; terms that are so general and undescriptive as to be useless.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2013 19:34:39 GMT
Spin says:
MR WD; I was being sarcastic.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2013 08:56:31 GMT
An exclamation mark might help, since it is difficult to 'hear' sarcasm on the written word.

And with you it is always difficult to tell whether you are being stupid, sarcastic or playing devil's advocate.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2013 12:53:57 GMT
Spin says:
MR W: If one reads my posts then my meaning and intent is clear. One cannot judge a posters meaning or intent by one reading...I have never had a problem understanding posters who both agree and disagree with me, as I am aware of thier previous posts, opinions and arguments on other issues and subjects. To be sure, newcomers may like to include smiley faces or suchlike on comments open to interpretation, until thier views become generally known, but I do not think it necessary for regular contributors to be required to constantly stress thier intent and.or meaning. If you choose not to read my posts, then the fault is yours, not mine.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2013 13:22:33 GMT
"Mr W: Jesus would refute, deny and insult me. Why? Because I am human... "

How does one determine this is sarcasm, even from someone who has put up with your posts for the last couple of years?

I think you put too much faith in your ability to understand the tone of your own posts and not enough in communicating that tone.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jan 2013 11:59:10 GMT
Spin says:
MR WD: And how does one communicate a tone via print? You suggest I use an exclamation mark but such a symbol is employed to indicate "Surprise", "Anger" or the "force" of an expression not its tone. And a smiley or winking face indicates humour or agreement,, so cannot be applied to a serious, albeit sarcastic, comment. Perhaps you would like to suggest a new symbol for sarcasm, in text-speak.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jan 2013 21:52:57 GMT
An exclamation mark can be used to indicate something is not what it seems, hence sarcasm. You could also write 'this is sarcastic'. Sarcasm (the lowest form of wit) can be very funny, but if nobody else gets it, then it falls a bit flat - basically the punchline is missing.

You seem to use words a lot and have a lot to say, how about making use of the full repetoire of symbols available to you and make up some code that will help you with your implications. Like :) or ! or :} or ;|

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jan 2013 22:23:46 GMT
AJ Murray says:
I recall a discussion about this some time ago, and there's been some suggestions for a modified question or exclamation mark at the end of a sentence to indicate sarcasm, another suggestion was the interrobang. All these are unavailable to most people as they aren't included in the standard fonts.

Interestingly enough, subtitlers have often faced the same problem and use the following convention:

'Where tone of voice is particularly critical to meaning, and facial expression and body language are inadequate to convey the tone, the use of '(!)' and '(?)' immediately following speech can indicate sarcasm and irony as shown below:

No, no. You're not late (!)'

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/itc/itc_publications/codes_guidance/standards_for_subtitling/subtitling_2.asp.html#2_1

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 08:54:07 GMT
Spin says:
Mr WD: I seem to use words a lot? Well, doesn't everyone? Unless you can recommend another means of expressing oneself verbally or textually...Anyway, people not getting my jokes or sarcasm does not bother me as much as it obviously bothers you. There are some posts on these threads that I do not get but unlike you I do not make an issue of it.

Posted on 27 Jan 2013 13:58:57 GMT
Often people don't show initiative because no-one told them to.

I love that quote, couldn't put it any better. Humans fall under two categories: sheep and shepherds. Those who lead and those who follow. Those who follow close their minds, think within the box and do what they are lead to believe is in their best interest. They think they have opinions, but truth is their opinion is actually someone elses. For some its a comfort thing, some don't feel they could lead and are happy to follow. Some are unaware they are sheep and may even feel they are leaders. These people struggle to adapt to new situations and are very much routine driven.
Then there are leaders, the people who set the standards. Not necessarily good people, there are many examples throughout history demonstrating that being a good leader is not always being a good person in turn. Leaders are strong willed, know what they want to achieve and don't stop until they do. Political status holds no value, there are people in power who are in actual fact sheep, they subconsciously follow. Leaders are trend setters and are constantly chasing a goal or target. They have strong opinions but have open minds. They are good at adapting and thrive in change.
Which are you then?
If you:
-often wait for one car to use a bus lane then follow it.
-find you often invite yourself along with people to places they've pre determined.
-are the person whose opinion depends on what you've read/heard about.
-are not very good at making decisions under pressure.
-regularly reference newspapers as an information source.
-buy things you don't need because: a) your friend/associate has/recommended. b) you saw it advertised somewhere.
-do something you were told to even though you don't know what the outcome will be.
-unsure of yourself
-have no goals
-happy with what you have
These are sheep traits.

If you:
-tend to recommend things strongly to people.
-take control of situations early on.
-question what is put forward to you as a source.
-like to understand how things work down to inner workings.
-are never satisfied.
-can understand body language to help gauge a situation.
-know the outcome already and how to get to it.
-don't rely on anything but yourself for motivation.
-believe the sky is no limit
-are prepared to do what it takes to achieve what you set out to
-don't do losing well.
these are leadership tells.

Posted on 27 Jan 2013 14:35:00 GMT
G. Hanks says:
"Humans fall under two categories: sheep and shepherds."

Hey kids, it's that time again, welcome to Generalisation Corner, I am your host Trey Wibbly. Here at Generalisation Corner we know that the human condition can be easily parred down into narrow categorisations where everyone has to fit into a specific group with no deviation. Of course there are those that oppose this, saying that anyone who makes giant sweeping generalisations to make a random point falls completely flat on their face. These people are wrong and fit into what we call The Wrong People. After all, there are two different kinds of people The Wrong Ones and The Right Ones. The Wrong Ones are always wrong and The Right Ones are always right. There is nothing inbetween.

That's all for this week's episode, and remember kids, if you look down when you walk then it means you're an introvert who is careful with their money but awkward in social situations. It has nothing to do with watching where you're going or avoiding dog poo. Doctorus Phillus in Excelsia.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 14:46:23 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Pop - I'm all of those things depending on how I feel on the day (except for the bus lane thing, I don't do bus lanes).

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 14:47:25 GMT
No the issue is that you provoked an unnecessary response by not making clear your intent. Is everything you write not meant to be taken seriously? If there is a difference between your serious statements and your non-serious ones, you need to make clearer which is which else you run the risk of your serious statements being taken as jokes (come to think of it....)

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 14:54:47 GMT
Do you feel down sometimes because others around you do? Or because the media says a certain day in january is the most depressing day of the calendar year?

Everyone has bad days (oh look at that GH, I'm using generalisations again), but some people have less Karen. Some use a bad day as an opportunity to better themselves. Some sit in the corner and hope it gets better. What kind of bad days do you have?

Posted on 27 Jan 2013 14:59:09 GMT
There's no right answer. Not all sheep are melancholy losers, not all leaders are great role models. Sheep can have fulfilling lives take the religious as example. Christ is their shepherd and they are happy with that, good for them. Hitler was a leader, nasty piece of work I think we can all agree.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 15:08:06 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
I have an irritating habit of trying to be cheerful when those around me are down. I suppose that makes me controlling. But if I'm down I do something to cheer myself up, however trivial that might be, shopping, driving to the beach, walk the dog etc. I'm cynical of what the media says we should be thinking/eating/wearing, but that probably comes with age, like shouting at the telly. So, an optimistic cynic with controlling tendencies?
Are you sheep, shepherd or just human?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 15:15:32 GMT
Well I'd say those pretty much all point towards the leadership side of things, especially given the lengths you would go to in order to achieve happiness. Cheering others around you when they are down shows you are not at all prone to negativity which is highly contagious and the fact you go as far as cheering others up is clearly as you state taking control of a situation. These are the shepherds traits. I'm pretty sure you are atheist?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 15:19:15 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
How did you guess? ;))

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 15:33:25 GMT
Last edited by the author on 27 Jan 2013 15:40:18 GMT
Ok karen only, answer this question:

A woman is invited to her mothers funeral who she hasn't seen in some time, at the funeral the woman sees a man she has never met before. She briefly speaks to him and instantly likes him. She doesn't feel the circumstances are right to ask for his number and doesn't.

Later that night she travels to her sisters home with her and kills her.

Why?

(And no looking up the answer, its either you get it right away or not)

I forgot a key fact, she saw her sister talking to the man at the funeral.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 15:52:33 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Car crash?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 16:38:45 GMT
AJ Murray says:
I know the answer to this one. :)

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 17:07:27 GMT
RE: "Those who follow close their minds, think within the box and do what they are lead to believe is in their best interest. They think they have opinions, but truth is their opinion is actually someone elses. For some its a comfort thing, some don't feel they could lead and are happy to follow. Some are unaware they are sheep and may even feel they are leaders. These people struggle to adapt to new situations and are very much routine driven."

unbelievers. to a tee.

for instance, an avid football supporter. a tribalist:
out at sea in exile - where he is brought to nought.
his tribal football heroes are overpaid yet he invests to support them.
he is at a loss when a player of "his tribe", "defects" to another tribe.

if that's not blind, so-called "sheep behavior" then i don't know what is.

and yet sports men and sports arenas are considered "alpha realm".
coveted. envied. admired. held up as beacons of light. to be emulated.
showered with drunken praises and the cheers of the mindless.
whipping up an orgy of drunken reveling and possession by jinn.

but if you remove the supporter from the tribal context, he is at a loss. (almost like a cute little sheep-fold?). he is devoured by "wolves".
ditto post-code wars, or wars of unbelieving nations. Or football.
All of which is bolstered by a deeply ingrained, defiant, darwinian disbelief. Being mindlessly carried away by the sway of the environment. Entirely programmed by vain loyalties to localities & "heroes". staunchly tribal. void of awareness of anything beyond the five senses. led by the nose by eastenders, into an alcoholic lifestyle.

Did you know they implement fish innards in the beer-making process?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jan 2013 17:11:44 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Re. Beer making and fish innards - it's called isinglass, and has been used to clarify beer and wine for centuries.

Posted on 27 Jan 2013 17:30:16 GMT
Go on then AJ. What is the right answer?
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