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In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 07:46:08 GMT
"sure not all of the nazis were vicious henchmen"

A better comparison, imo, would be that not all Germans were Nazis, just like not all Muslims are barbaric and violent. If you start letting the few be the deciding factor of the whole you're going to end up with a very negative view of all people - what factor do you use to make your decisions.
There have been young single mothers that have tortured their kids to death, that does not mean all young single mothers are child beaters who should be looked down on. There are a lot of young men who binge drink and fight every friday but it doesn't mean that every one is the same, and I'm sure that if you weren't one of them you'd be offended to be included in a generalisation. In America something like 1 out of 2 black men has been in jail or has a criminal conviction and they statistically do worse in education, that doesn't mean all black people are stupid gang-bangers and is unfair on those who are hardworking.
Because some Muslims are still in 8th century thinking, with honour killings and stonings and because some are terrorists it's not right to 'stare at them in disgust, point and laugh' because it's probable the majority are just like you or I or anyone else on this forum, just normal folk going about their daily life.

Sadly, the minority negative is better news and makes news over any minority good act or majority non-news. Bad news sells, stereotypes sell - 'Muslim cleric declares death to all' will sell more papers than 'Muslim man saves 3 from car crash' (tbh I'd be surprised if in that instance the religion would even get a mention)

Don't let the minority be your judgement for the whole. We've all known the reports and the threats etc but of all the guys I've worked with, they, in general, are hard-working and care for their families. Just like most other people. I will not include them under the same heading as any Muslim that throws acid over their daughter for being raped, or any that beats their child to death for not learning the Quran.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 07:47:57 GMT
"Or am I being reasonable to expect religions to obey the law of the land."

That is reasonable. I think most people would expect the same and I would hope that we never see the day where Shariah law is allowed to come into practice.

I still think you're being prejudiced though =P

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 08:01:46 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 10:07:32 GMT
You cant be a muslim who distances themselves from Islam, illogical.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 10:09:25 GMT
"cause of course christianity is pure as driven so, has never commited any atrocities or done anything even remotely barbaric....right?"

Not saying that, please do find the quote if I have. Christianity though, does not encourage violence.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 10:22:13 GMT
Drew Jones says:
"Christianity though, does not encourage violence."
It does promote, celebrate and make a virtue of suffering though. This sometimes leads to acts of violence and mental anguish.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 10:26:08 GMT
Not going to deny that, but that is through the individuals interpretation of christian teachings as opposed to a direct instruction from christian scriptures.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 10:32:43 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Muslims that distance themselves from the religious beliefs? Then they are not muslims.

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 11:03:01 GMT
majority of christians are closer to david pbuh than to solomon pbuh or jesus pbuh. that means they ain't really christian. especially in baptist, jehovah witness and mormon circles. which are little more than businesses with a faux-religious fascia.

conforming to jesus is seen, there, more-or-less as anathema or blasphemy. they've turned it on it's head and perverted it. they are closer to zionists than to christians really. and have burning hatred for whosoever they wrongly deem pagans/unbelievers, via their distorted perverted doctrines (i.e., making unbelievers of anyone who doesn't buy their brand, and is thus "unsaved"). not unlike nationalists.

but you don't seem to mind these. which constitute a sizeable majority. "they're ok because they obey law of the land". except 503c, which avoid tax. "they're ok because they don't teach violence". that's right, every oppression and perversion, everything and anything bar literal violence. which they leave up to their national troops, who "legally kill" abroad. (which is given the thumbs up by you, "because they were pagans anyway"). exuse me while i shed a tear for your veterans and fallen soldiers.

hey. out of sight, out of mind, eh? that's the advantage of multi-national corporations. it means you can pretend to have ethics. (...but god forbid i point a finger at english nationalist patriot atheists! they don't have a unified belief, don't you know! beyond reproach! division of labour! avoid blame or responsibility! shift the goalposts and make yourself comfortable! like chameleons! it's amazing.).

but it's ok. keep comforting yourself by living in the past and projecting ghouls onto "pagans".

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 11:09:31 GMT
hows your EDL religion shaping up popcorn?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 11:15:48 GMT
what about christians who distance themselves from christianity (the majority of them)? that still illogical? or do we make special allowances? O I C.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 11:40:07 GMT
"making unbelievers of anyone who doesn't buy their brand"

As Islam does, with the exception of Jews and Christians, who are tolerated as long as they admit the supremacy of Islam.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 12:20:17 GMT
Last edited by the author on 7 Dec 2012 12:20:50 GMT
Good advert for Islam you are GTL.

For the record, I don't have a religion.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 12:45:09 GMT
Dan Fante says:
I've heard some Christians distance themselves so far from Christianity that they become Muslims.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 13:01:28 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Dan- brilliant- just chocked on my cheese roll. Many thanks for a welcome laugh.

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 13:10:43 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Someone should tell GTL that religion is for life and not just for Christmas.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 13:36:26 GMT
and why shouldn't Islam do all this? it makes no pretense otherwise. difference is christians are doctrinally not supposed to do this. guess the majority ain't christian then! must be hypocrite zionists then. like a spiritual version of nationalists, using crooked non-christian doctrine to raise sects. all the aforementioned.

atheists take their cue from this, and practically do the same. killing muslim "pagans" at home and abroad. sheer naked violent brainless tribalism.

but oh! it's all evil evil is islam! only islam is barbaric! despite that it aims to squash this senseless killing, namely through outing religious hypocrites and exposing falsehoods. such as the falsehood that atheist nationalists are ethical and free from hypocrisy at all levels. dig deeper and you see they havent a leg to stand on.

atheist soldiers are heroes, obviously, not killers. because they leave their deeds abroad.

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 13:38:19 GMT
atheism aims to trap, by destroying any semblance of coherence whereby its deeds are become manifest. namely by destroying, scapegoating and perverting religion

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 13:41:21 GMT
Dan Fante says:
If you say so.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 13:44:25 GMT
someone should tell dan that nationalism isnt for life but only for christmas. except in the case of an ex-empire in which case not even for christmas

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 13:46:05 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Why? Is Nationalism going to be your next fad?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 13:48:49 GMT
you thoroughly wish it'd be. on pain of death. in fact i have no choice

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 13:49:56 GMT
if only they would!

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 13:56:43 GMT
Lela says:
Instead of worrying that a little child (and many others ... ) suffer these cruel punishments in the name of a religion, you are worried to defend the reputation of a religion. That summarises it all for me: a religion that is more important than human life.

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 13:59:12 GMT
atheist bloodlust isn't ever quenched, and indeed can never be satisfied. incoherence makes for a very flimsy shelter, see?...

i await a jape about the bloodlust of killer muslim parents. proving my point.
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