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Cardinal O'Brien -the latest in a long list of shamed catholics.

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In reply to an earlier post on 18 Apr 2013 23:27:34 BDT
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Posted on 19 Apr 2013 00:47:28 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2013 08:03:08 BDT
C. A. Small says:
So terribly, awfully depressing . Any other organisation would have been disbanded by public and political demand by now.

How can anyone with even a shred of decency support this vile church?

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2013 10:44:12 BDT
For that you'd need to look at the information from US advocacy groups, I haven't had up to date information for about 6 months.

There was this article "" about cardinals who were accused of sexual abuse in the running for pope but Very poorly sourced used to keep up to date information but I don't know if they're still active

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2013 12:28:04 BDT
Bellatori says:
HI Occam... is still going. I was looking at it just now.

"WAUWATOSA, Wis. -Our news partners at the Wauwatosa Patch report that a former Wauwatosa priest who was relieved of his duties in March after a complaint had prior complaints filed against him. Fr. Robert Marsicek, 71, was a priest at Pius X parish before becoming the subject of an investigation last month. A Wauwatosa Catholic Schools teacher reported seeing Marsicek touching a student while holding her in his lap."

So he was still working with children last month. Hmmm

Where does that leave the comment
"Because of the scandal, because of the limelight, because of the work of the church, we now have safeguards that make the Catholic church as safe a place as it could possibly be, for the young and vulnerable. "

Actually I have some sympathy NOW with the church. Its response can only be reactive. A proActive attitude would require them to relieve any priest against whom any allegation has been made in the past of their duties and 'confine them to barracks' as it were. that would have stopped Fr. Robert Marsicek but it would look horrendous. The numbers would be very large and probably a significant proportion would be unjustified - there are always complaints whenever someone feels they did not get what they were looking for. It is a problem of their own making. Had they acted at the outset this woudl be a seven day wonder and a thing of the past never to happen again. Like the scandal over MPs expenses... it is amazing how short an attention span the public can have. Because of the covere up this has all unfolded in dribs and drabs and,as such, the focus changed and the blame has shifted. No longer are individuals just that, individuals, they are now representatives of the RCC. The blame is now seen to lie with the Church. Tis has legs and will run and run...

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2013 13:31:28 BDT
I don't doubt more is being done now than was before because of the limelight, but they took a long time to react for the benefit of children rather than for the benefit of the church.

Posted on 19 Apr 2013 13:38:15 BDT
C. A. Small says:
They only acted when legally forced to do so, and had for years tried to keep it quiet, notably by the ex pope Ratzinger.
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