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In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 14:07:58 GMT
Oh what Rubbish, how would you know about Death beds and how likely anything was.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 14:09:14 GMT
Thats fine.

"This is not an attitude that is going to ensure happiness and success in your life. "

what if I am already succesful and Happy, or dont care about being sucessful, or happy?

anyway, as you were

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 14:10:20 GMT
Ha excellent, do you recall its name. I will be downloading that.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 14:18:36 GMT
Spin says:
G: How can a prejudice be "natural"?

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 14:22:17 GMT
C. A. Small says:
J Forbes- and our amusement!

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 14:27:58 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Sorry, no, and I cannot find it on dvd.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 14:30:10 GMT
I'll find it somewhere

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 15:18:18 GMT
Bellatori says:
Spin says: "A true atheist would not concern him/herself with religious debate."

You forget, Spin, that we true atheists may have nothing better to amuse ourselves on a rainy wet Thursday...!?

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 15:20:59 GMT
Bellatori says:
Spin says: "G: How can a prejudice be "natural"?"

If I understand correctly, it is if it is mine. Yours would merely be disgusting and perverted...

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 15:27:50 GMT
G. Heron says:
Spin

"How can a prejudice be "natural"? "

If it is based on sound reasoning.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 15:29:04 GMT
It was beautiful all day here, clear blue skys and the sun was out. Think it my have even reached 10 degrees for the first time since probably August

I get out of work in a couple of minutes and the sky has suddenly gone over cast and there are some threatening clouds floating around.... typical

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 15:32:18 GMT
Dan Fante says:
That's your malevolent deity at work if you ask me ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 15:48:15 GMT
Phatmandan says:
Has anyone got tomorrows weather forecast. I am playing golf and if you can arrange for sunshine again I might start worshiping you.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 15:50:30 GMT
J. Forbes says:
That sounds like a very rational basis for worship.

Indeed, some of the earliest religions were based on sun worship, and in Britain you can see why.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 15:59:09 GMT
GODDIDIT

Posted on 15 Feb 2013 18:35:57 GMT
Yep, Clive: it's the friendless one under another name.

Best guess is he's trying to fool the social since the sperm bank sacked him for drinking on the job.

Posted on 15 Feb 2013 23:26:56 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 16 Feb 2013 01:56:48 GMT
AJ Murray says:
Hi Wayne,

-"Because you are not being judged for your belief but for your actions."

This doesn't appear to marry with what you were saying earlier:

-"The point is that God does not forgive anyone unless they genuinely ask for it (i.e. salvation). That does mean that Jimmy Saville and Adolf Hitler and Pol Pot could all be in Heaven, but the likelihood is slim."

What actions of mine does God find so irredeemable? I make no claims of leading a perfect life, but i can at the very least be certain that my actions are not anywhere near as immoral as Jimmy, Adolf and Pol, yet you suggest they may be living it up in Heaven whereas i may be condemned, even though at that very moment i am most sincere in my belief, contrition and request for forgiveness.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Feb 2013 07:47:00 GMT
AJ,

To God it is not the degree of sin that you commit that is the problem, it is that you sin. We might be able to make a list of bad actions and put them in order of 'badness', but inherent in that is the way we see sin.

Or to put it another way - if you are making an omlette and all of the eggs are bad, then there is not much you can do with the omlette. But if you are making it with one bad egg and the rest are fine, is the final result edible?

From God's perspective sin is sin, there are no degrees of sin, there is just sin. The ten commandments puts coveting in the same bracket as murder, whereas we clearly do not.

That means your hope that living a good life will make a difference to God with regards to the lapses in goodness makes you the same as Saville & Hitler & AN Other - a sinner.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Feb 2013 08:03:14 GMT
TomC says:
"From God's perspective sin is sin, there are no degrees of sin, there is just sin. "

So if I were a devout christian and I had allowed myself to have lustful thoughts about the wife of the bloke next door, to the extent that I simply could not contain my urges, my course of action would be clear. Under any reasonable, progressive system of justice I might sneak off with her for a filthy weekend in Clacton-On-Sea and hope to plead mitigation; since however god takes such a black-and-white view of things, and I am damned anyway, I might just as well get the hammer out of the garage and whack him over the head with it.

(The justice system in the 19th century had much the same defects by the way.)

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Feb 2013 08:48:48 GMT
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Drew Jones says:
"From God's perspective sin is sin, there are no degrees of sin, there is just sin. The ten commandments puts coveting in the same bracket as murder, whereas we clearly do not."
So your god has no perspective on things, no power of discernment, are you suggesting that is a better outlook on morality? If not why place and worship a being like that as your arbitor of morality? If he gets away with it because he is a god then might, once again, makes right is the idea you are ultimately pushing here and that is not a moral evaluation.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Feb 2013 09:03:50 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Wayne- in which case your god is a pure , unutterable b*stard.

Posted on 16 Feb 2013 09:19:55 GMT
DB says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 16 Feb 2013 09:23:28 GMT
Norm Deplume says:
Diane

"Atheism - discussion of what isn't there."

So is theism.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Feb 2013 09:27:39 GMT
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Drew Jones says:
"[God] doesn't exist, but they can read his mind."
Minds are where god are made and reside, other minds are perfect for evaluating that sort of stuff.
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