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Buddhism - As bad as the rest?


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Initial post: 2 May 2013 10:16:02 BDT
Dan Fante says:
It seems even Buddhist monks are up for a bit of religious persecution and mindless violence.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22356306

Posted on 2 May 2013 14:33:16 BDT
Bellatori says:
Hi Dan...

Yes, I wondered about this. But then are they buddhist monks in the real sense of the word? It is a bit like national service, becoming a monk, in Burma. Part of the tradition but one wonders with these young men how sincere they are. Not at all by the looks of it.

The difference between the reaction of buddhism in general and that of, say, Muslim hierarchy, is that the former will condemn the violence whereas the latter seem to be the source of it.

Posted on 2 May 2013 16:52:36 BDT
Spin says:
There is no prescription in Buddhism to "turn the other cheek". That is a uniquely Christian ideal.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2013 16:55:14 BDT
G. Heron says:
Spin

"There is no prescription in Buddhism to "turn the other cheek". That is a uniquely Christian ideal. "

As demonstrated in the crusades.

Posted on 2 May 2013 16:58:07 BDT
Bellatori says:
I found the following... It is actually from the Delhi Lama in an article about 'Is it so strange for a Buddhist to kill?'

"Buddhists work out their values through stories of Buddha's past lives, which show him in myriad roles, such as a battle-elephant or minister defending his besieged city. The following story is analogous to a terrorist situation. It is known throughout northern Buddhism. Communists even used it to rouse Chinese Buddhists to fight in Korea. The Buddha, in a past life as a ship's captain named Super Compassionate, discovered a criminal on board who intended to kill the 500 passengers. If he told the passengers, they would panic and become killers themselves, as happened on a Southwest Airlines flight in 2000. With no other way out, he compassionately stabbed the criminal to death. Captain Compassionate saved the passengers not only from murder, but from becoming murderers themselves. Unlike him, they would have killed in rage and suffered hell. He saved the criminal from becoming a mass murderer and even worse suffering. He himself generated vast karmic merit by acting with compassion.

The story is double-edged. Killing protects others from the horrific karma of killing. At Harvard in April 2009, the Dalai Lama explained that "wrathful forceful action" motivated by compassion, may be "violence on a physical level" but is "essentially nonviolence". So we must be careful to understand what "nonviolence" means. Under the right conditions, it could include killing a terrorist.

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I doubt it applies to what we are seeing however... I don't notice much compassion on show.

Posted on 2 May 2013 17:04:22 BDT
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Spin says:
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G. Heron says:
Bellatori

"I doubt it applies to what we are seeing however... I don't notice much compassion on show. "

Well it should be easy to check, just measure the amount of karmic merit being generated.

Posted on 2 May 2013 22:30:24 BDT
Heretic says:
I suspect that Buddhism the philosophy is far gentler than Buddhism the religion.

SWH

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2013 09:35:52 BDT
Dan Fante says:
I guess this is them doing the "right" thing then, eh?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/burmamyanmar/10030228/Burma-one-dead-after-fresh-anti-Muslim-riots.html

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