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Initial post: 9 Jun 2012 12:03:59 BDT
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Posted on 9 Jun 2012 12:16:01 BDT
gille liath says:
Hmmm...I think there may be a few corners of the globe to which it hasn't yet penetrated...

Posted on 9 Jun 2012 13:46:19 BDT
Jim Guest says:
Humour evolved because of natural dignity. Humour is derived from temporary absence of dignity.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 21:51:23 BDT
L. Hennessy says:
So that ugly people could pull fit ones.

Posted on 9 Jun 2012 23:25:35 BDT
Our emotions are of God I believe.

He gave us laughter, sadness, empathy with others, our natural sexual desires and all the emotional stages and things that make us human and I for one am very appreciative.

When I'm in the 'glums' - an emotional state - I can watch The Three Stooges, a Roadrunner cartoon or some other thing that stimulates the section of my God-given cerebral makeup that reacts as 'funny' and get a good laugh, an emotional state to counter the first one.

Just think on the song by The Byrds, 'Turn Turn Turn', the lyrics of which came from The Bible and that explains it well. Humour was given by God as a balance to even us up when the 'glums' are on us and we would be no better being always sad as always happy.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 23:42:17 BDT
R. Kroell says:
Again, I may quote some line from the name of the rose:
Jorge de Burgos: Laughter is a devilish wind which deforms, uh, the lineaments of the face and makes men look like monkeys.
William of Baskerville: Monkeys do not laugh. Laughter is particular to men.
Jorge de Burgos: As is sin. Christ never laughed.
William of Baskerville: Can we be so sure?
Jorge de Burgos: There is nothing in the Scriptures to say that he did.
William of Baskerville: And there's nothing in the Scriptures to say that he did not. Why, even the saints have been known to employ comedy, to ridicule the enemies of the Faith. For example, when the pagans plunged St. Maurice into the boiling water, he complained that his bath was too cold. The Sultan put his hand in... scalded himself.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 23:57:27 BDT
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Posted on 10 Jun 2012 00:00:37 BDT
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Posted on 10 Jun 2012 00:50:21 BDT
L. Hennessy says:
This explains it - it also explains why most women aren't funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7izJggqCoA

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jun 2012 04:43:29 BDT
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light says:
So Jorge said that Christ never laughed because the bible doesn't mention it, but the bible also doesn't mention that Jesus deficated or urinated after he ate or drank either, so are we to believe that he did not have these natural functions?

Why would the bible bother to mention, Joy in the Lord, if we are not to enjoy ourselves an have a laugh every now and then?

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jun 2012 04:46:21 BDT
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light says:
whoops posted twice

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jun 2012 07:30:36 BDT
Withnail says:
Just goes to show he loved to take the rise out of people

I just can't work out how he said those things without bursting out laughing - that was his real talent.

Equally wrong and equally funny -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ATcainiaHg

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jun 2012 23:33:39 BDT
Very well put. As it's not mentioned, nobody went to the khasi in The Bible.

I use a similar line to discuss with Bible legalists who insist you should only go to worship on Sundays because The Bible does not mention any other day. They likewise argue that only Sunday should be the day for Communion as The Bible talks about the breaking of bread on the First Day.

As I see it, the original 'Last Supper' would have been held on the Thursday night prior to the Jewish Sabbath, which commenced at 1800 hours on Friday. Should we Christians not therefore all change the Eucharist to Thursday evening for accuracy?

As to things not stated, it's as if I wrote a letter that stated I went to the cimema on Saturday nights. In an hundred years someone finds the letter and makes the assumption that, as I have not stated I also went on Wednesday nights, I didn't do it and it never happened.

This, "speak where the Bible speaks but be silent where The Bible is silent", is legalistic rubbish.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jun 2012 23:48:52 BDT
light says:
Roger,

I think the only time it is mentioned that anyone relieived themself in the bible is when King Saul went into the cave and relieved himself, as David was close enough to him to touch the hem of his robe. I've heard that there was a debate about what kind of relieving that King Saul was doing, if you catch my drift?

I've found that when I try to understand the bible I must pay attention to what is written and what is not written that should be. Those are the parts of the bible that get me thinking and the parts that are strange or written 2x in a row, I know they have esoteric meaning and I want to know what it is.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2012 00:11:55 BDT
Relieving could be interpreted variously - bowels, urinating, even masturbation at a stretch but I would guess that last was not the point and it would have been between the other two options. I guess the original language would have the answer.

As to the parts of The Bible to which you refer, what are they and WHERE, OT or NT? I don't believe any part of the Bible is written escoterically to a privileged and initiated arcane elite. I have never found this to be the case.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2012 00:18:54 BDT
light says:
In the OT, I often wondered why some things were written twice, but in slightly different wording. I asked a Rabbi about this and he said because anytime something is written twice it has specific meaning. I can't think of the verses off hand, but when I find some I will post it here.

The Hebrew bible is known as having 5 levels of understanding I posted it at one time I'll see if I can find it, my computer doesn't copy and paste anymore but if I find where I posted it I will let you know.

The different levels of understanding are known as Pardes, "The Orchard"

I'll be back in a minute

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2012 00:25:19 BDT
Jim Guest says:
Roger Edward Deshon, we are so privileged. We are simply lost in wonder and admiration at Roger Edward Deshon.

Well, one of us is.

But in fact, Roger Edward Deshon is not quite perfect. Because when he writes 'I use a similar line to discuss with Bible legalists who insist you should only go to worship on Sundays because The Bible does not mention any other day,' one wonders what sort of person Roger Edward Deshon talks to. It's not people who know what they are talking about, anyway.

Of course, Roger Edward Deshon may be trying to persuade us that the Bible does not mention any other day, knowing very well that this is untrue. But persons of catholic tendency, like gille, DB and Tom M. never, ever lie, do they? So Roger Edward Deshon may be a great deal less than perfect, yes. But it is sooooo unlikely.

Posted on 11 Jun 2012 00:29:43 BDT
Jim Guest says:
As Groucho said, people who think they are really smart slimeballs are mistaken. They are just slimeballs.

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Last edited by the author on 11 Jun 2012 01:00:52 BDT
"Roger Edward Deshon, we are so privileged. We are simply lost in wonder and admiration at Roger Edward Deshon.Well, one of us is". Do you realise how puerile you sound to other readers? I wonder if you and C.A. SMALL are buddies? You sound like it.

"But in fact, Roger Edward Deshon is not quite perfect". I didn't say I was. I happen to like the true sentiments expressed in the car sticker that says, "Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven".

"Because when he writes 'I use a similar line to discuss with Bible legalists who insist you should only go to worship on Sundays because The Bible does not mention any other day,' one wonders what sort of person Roger Edward Deshon talks to. It's not people who know what they are talking about, anyway". Not that it's your business but I will explain that I was talking to friends, members of The Church of Christ who believe that Sunday is the only Biblical day for partaking of Communion as The Bible does not specify any other day. I myself believe that, as being under grace and not law, I can take Communion on any day I wish.

"Of course, Roger Edward Deshon may be trying to persuade us that the Bible does not mention any other day, knowing very well that this is untrue". So, on what do you base the statement I'm trying to persuade anyone of anything and to what other day do you refer as being, as written, an approved day of worship?

This time, try and speak to me with some maturity.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2012 01:11:48 BDT
Jim Guest says:
'The Bible does not specify any other day'

Incorrect, as you know.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2012 01:15:43 BDT
Last edited by the author on 11 Jun 2012 01:20:03 BDT
light says:
Roger,

I'll try one more time, this is the third time I'm trying to answer this post, maybe I'll change a few words because something in my post was against the rules, so here it goes.

There are different levels of understanding the bible, PaRDeS, explains these levels:

pshat- plain, literal meaning

Remez- allegorical or hinting at something more

Drash- hidden, secret or mysterious

Sod- esoteric or concealed, the deepest level of understanding

Jesus spoke to his inner-circle of disciples about these secrets and mysteries the rest of the people he spoke to in parables, that should sound familiar to you.

The story of Pardes The Garden/Orchard is that 4 rabbis meditated on the unpronouncable name of god YHVH, when the entered into the garden one of the rabbis died, one went insane, one became a heretic and the last one left in peace.

It takes many years to prepare oneself to be ready to accept the higher meaning of the bible. You know that God reveals himself to those who sincerely seek and never give up. God himself reveals to those according to their level of understanding, so the more we prepare ourself the more that is revealed. Here are a couple of sites if you are interested in The four who entered Pardes:

kabbalahmeditation.org/pardes.htm

koshertorah.com/PDF/PardesLessons.pdf

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2012 01:29:14 BDT
light says:
Humor goes waaay back.

Amoeba humor:

"I'm not fat, it's the high oxygen level" said the huge amoeba.

"Hey, baby you wanna go viral?"

"Well it's obvious when we went through mitosis, the brain went to my side."

A mathematical question for you. "Do we divide or multiply?"

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2012 01:29:57 BDT
I asked you to be specific and I ask again. To which day do you refer? It's a straightforward question so please answer in similar way.

The Sabbath was the holy day for the Jews - Friday 1800 to Saturday 1800 - but the Christians, to differ, chose the first day of the week, which actually commenced from 1800 hours on the Saturday and went to 1800 on the Sunday. It was early on the morning of the first day when the women found the tomb opened and Jesus gone.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2012 01:38:47 BDT
"God himself reveals to those according to their level of understanding, so the more we prepare ourself the more that is revealed."

I beg to differ. We can certainly study The Bible but I find nothing hidden and in fact Christ rebuked His Disciples when they sought to exclude small children, who certainly would not grasp esoteric and arcane teachings. "Suffer the children to come unto me, for of such is The Kingdom of Heaven".

We are taught to believe in Christ and to trust in Him and I do, with simple faith. If I have questions I ask Him through prayer for solutions and answers.

It is my credo, my belief, that I am justified by faith and God's undeserved Grace and that's sufficient for me.
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