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Initial post: 20 Jul 2012 14:03:29 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:08:26 BDT
"Do Scientists Have Knowledge or Guesses ?"

Both.

Their existing knowledge, helps them to make guesses about unknown scientific matters, then the empirical method allows them to (dis)prove their guesses, which then become additional knowledge suggesting new areas of investigation.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 15:11:33 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:15:47 BDT
Bits of it are both. There's a lot of knowledge about the history of change within and between species. There's a lot of knowledge of the mechanisms of that change. But in some cases there is not enough knowledge so there are tentative guesses.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:17:28 BDT
To assert Christianity. the onus is on the Christian to provide some evidence/argument, more compelling than their usual "fusty p1sh".

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:22:40 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jul 2012 15:23:15 BDT
"Do you think evolution is a guess or knowledge ?"

Do you think the resurrection of Jesus Christ is a guess or knowledge? If it is knowledge, what evidence would you select to prove it?

P.S. Dusty old tomes written 2000 years ago, by ignorant and gullible fishermen/tax-men ain't evidence of the resurrection.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:24:17 BDT
"Do you think evolution is a guess or knowledge ?"

It is a fact.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 15:27:05 BDT
Notreshuggie,

--"Do you think evolution is a guess or knowledge ?"

It is a fact.--

Why do you think that ?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:30:01 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jul 2012 15:32:01 BDT
Good question, one problem.
"If all are guesses how can they be used like truths in arguing that Christianity is false ?"

simple, they aren't. Name a piece of scientific research which was conducted for the sole purpose of disproving christianity...

Scientific research is for the greater good, don't flatter yourself in thinking it's done to disprove God, it just happens to throw up the occasional contradiction to religious doctrine.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:33:12 BDT
Dear Mr Tommo...

What an absurd thread question.

Why do you ask "do scientists have knowledge"....have.....or guesses....mmmh

A bit like "colourless green ideas sleep furiously"....clever!

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:34:09 BDT
Evolution cannot be described as a fact...only a theory....and a silly one at that!

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 15:36:06 BDT
Popcorn Player,

--Good question, one problem.
"If all are guesses how can they be used like truths in arguing that Christianity is false ?"

simple, they aren't. Name a piece of scientific research which was conducted for the sole purpose of disproving christianity...

Scientific research is for the greater good, don't flatter yourself in thinking it's done to disprove God, it just happens to throw up the occasional contradiction religious doctrine.--

Like I put before parts of the bible may be false in testing people.

I didn't say work of scientists has always been used trying disprove Christianity.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:40:09 BDT
"Why do you think that ?"

Because of the evidence.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:41:11 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jul 2012 15:42:05 BDT
Woof! Good doggie, sit!

How's the canine NLP coming along?

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 15:42:24 BDT
Notreshuggie,

--"Why do you think that ?"

Because of the evidence.--

What kind of evidence ?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:43:21 BDT
"What kind of evidence ?"

Scientific.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:44:39 BDT
G. Heron says:
Thomas Kelly guessing

Here is someone far better than me to answer your question.

http://amiquote.tumblr.com/post/4463599197/richard-feynman-on-how-we-would-look-for-a-new-law

If for any reason someone can't get to the link here is a transcript of Richard Feynman

"Now I'm going to discuss how we would look for a new law. In general, we look for a new law by the following process. First, we guess it (audience laughter), no, don't laugh, that's the truth. Then we compute the consequences of the guess, to see what, if this is right, if this law we guess is right, to see what it would imply and then we compare the computation results to nature or we say compare to experiment or experience, compare it directly with observations to see if it works.

If it disagrees with experiment, it's WRONG. In that simple statement is the key to science. It doesn't make any difference how beautiful your guess is, it doesn't matter how smart you are who made the guess, or what his name is... If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. That's all there is to it."

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 15:47:54 BDT
Notreshuggie,

--"What kind of evidence ?"

Scientific.--

From who ?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:48:44 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jul 2012 15:49:25 BDT
"From who ?"

Scientists.

This is easy-peasy, lemon-squeasy.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 15:52:28 BDT
Notreshuggie,

--"From who ?"

Scientists.

This is easy-peasy, lemon-squeasy.--

Do you have a first name and surnname of the scientists ?

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 15:57:16 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jul 2012 15:58:17 BDT
"Do you have a first name and surnname(sic) of the scientists ?"

Yes.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 15:59:26 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jul 2012 15:59:43 BDT
"Do you have a first name and surnname(sic) of the scientists ?"

Do you have the surnames of the apostles?

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 16:00:45 BDT
Notreshuggie,

--"Do you have a first name and surnname(sic) of the scientists ?"

Yes.--

Will you post the names ?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 16:02:24 BDT
"Will you post the names ?"

Why?

There is a library near you, go to the science section, read a book on evolution.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 16:02:48 BDT
Fair point dude.
The atheism vs. creationism arguement will rage on for eternity or until science delivers solid proof (really doubt that will happen in my life time). Atheists use scientific theories to defend their points, creationists use a 2000 year old book in most cases. There is never going to be a winner, even if there is, the opposing group will refuse to accept it. NO WIN situation.
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