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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 18:55:55 GMT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 18:31:26 GMT
Spin,

You can't answer them. Fair enough. You're not quite as clever as you think you are. You have made some fundamental errors but you can't see that. As for refusing to see that I'm answering my own questions by asking them - nonsense. But that's why you're here - carry on with your non-sense, I won't be reading it.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 18:25:34 GMT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 18:24:22 GMT
Spin,

" And Mass is itself reliant on "gravity". "

No it absolutely isn't. Mass is the amount of "stuff" present. It is independent of gravity. It stays the same whatever the strength of gravity (or any other force) around it. Did you mean to say weight?
For someone telling me I know nothing about physics this is a fundamental thing - my daughter just learnt this at school.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 18:23:21 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
C.L. - so it shouldn't be too difficult to find where, when and how these miracles are happening then. And I assume they are attended by atheists and believers alike, so at least some of the witnesses are unbiased. Is it worth asking for some kind of proof?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 18:17:29 GMT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 17:53:02 GMT
Spin,

Are you going to answer my questions or not? You are not making sense and I'm trying to understand what you mean. You seem to think that gravity does not exist because it is an effect caused by other phenomena. Why can it still not be called gravity? WHat matters if it is a collection of effects? Gravity has a definition - you seem to want to redefine it and call it another name. That seems pedantic.

Now I've asked some questions. If you can't be bothered to answer its not really a discussion is it:
Do you think of consciousness in the same way? There is an effect of the brain which we call consciousness. We do not know its cause. It is an effect with many causes (most probably). Noone knows what consciousness really is. Do you think consciousness exists?
And what are the wide number of phenomena acting that cause the experience of gravity?
Does everything have to be a "cause" to exist?
How does one experience something which doesn't exist?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:58:48 GMT
Bellatori says:
Sorry Spin but you are muddled here. Mass and gravity are not the same. Mass is caused by an objects interaction with the Higgs field. Without this nothing would have mass. Mass does not exist because of gravity. Similarly gravity is caused by the interaction of an object with the gravity field. Gravity does not exist because of mass.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:57:03 GMT
Littleriver says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:55:41 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Faith is an amazing adventure into the unknown and unevidenced- which is why it is called faith. It is illogical, and frankly stupid.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:54:52 GMT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:48:30 GMT
Littleriver says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:48:20 GMT
Spin says:
CL; No, Knowledge is being certain something is true based on experience. Faith is not knowledge. If it were, one would say " I Know X is true", not "I have faith that X is true".

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:37:26 GMT
Bellatori says:
Spin says: "And Mass is itself reliant on "gravity"

Actually ... no it is not. The force between masses is a function of the gravitational field but mass is a functioin of the interaction with the Higgs field...

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:36:40 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Then why is it called 'faith'?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:35:50 GMT
Bellatori says:
C. L. Brook says: " just because you personally haven't heard about it "

..and there is a very good reason we have not heard about it...

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:35:11 GMT
Littleriver says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:35:09 GMT
Dan Fante says:
If it only happens in your imagination it doesn't count.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:33:23 GMT
C. A. Small says:
CLB- any authenticated examples by medically trained people and not just assertion by the deluded, credulous and plain daft?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 14:30:03 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 13:52:20 GMT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 13:45:35 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 13:44:48 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Do you do a double quotation thing with your fingers when you say it as well?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 13:42:19 GMT
C. A. Small says:
A desire to be a pseudo-intellectual?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2013 13:30:52 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Shall we call "gravity" Spins "law of pedantry" then? Any other suggestions?
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