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Posted on 2 Nov 2013 21:18:51 GMT
The irony is that by replying you are admitting that your faith is weak. Faith requires no evidence. But then as there is no evidence I suppose it is not surprising that theists thrash around a bit... aah well...

Posted on 2 Nov 2013 18:17:32 GMT
SJB says:
What is the Best Evidence for God?

His self revelation. That is it.

Posted on 1 Jul 2013 15:23:21 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 15:10:16 BDT
Yes, I read the letter from One member of the ITCCS a virulently biased organisation, a letter which contains no sources.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 15:09:12 BDT
Henry James says:
Bella: Given that he was Pope you think God might have given him a nudge... you know "Pssst Ratz.. I think you should read this...."
HJ: On a related matter
did you hear that the Psychic Convention has been cancelled.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 14:44:26 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 14:41:30 BDT
Really can't right now. May get a chance this evening but no promises. If the documentary contains compelling evidence, that evidence will be traceable back to a source and 99% of reliable sources are written down and most written sources are available on the internet, so rather than waiting for me to be swayed by an emotional portrayal of the issue, you could just point me in the direction of the evidence...just a thought.

Posted on 1 Jul 2013 14:36:51 BDT
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Posted on 1 Jul 2013 14:30:08 BDT
Ok, so one reverend claims Ratzinger was proven to be criminally involved. A reverned heavily involved with the ITCCS which is not an unbiased body and cites no source for this claim of criminal proof. I essentially disregard this as evidence. It's mere suspicion.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 14:27:27 BDT
Sorry mis-attributed sources there. Will have to look into this alleged letter from Rev K Annett.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 14:22:47 BDT
Not denying he was definitely in the least incompetent.

Posted on 1 Jul 2013 14:12:52 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:49:17 BDT
Bellatori says:
Further to my last post. The kindest thing one can say about Ratzinger was that he was grossly incompetent. Given that he was Pope you think God might have given him a nudge... you know "Pssst Ratz.. I think you should read this...."

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:47:33 BDT
Bellatori says:
Sorry... did you not see the bit where he signed a letter saying that these offences should be dealt with within the church and not taken to external authorities? The letter cam out in court in Los Angeles I think when the church was being sued.

He was instructed to deal with the matter by JPII and then ignored repeated letters by an Archbishop to deal with a matter.

I repeat my [EDIT] bit

I found 74000 references, many the same, but the circumstantial evidence is sufficient to warrant a full blown investigation which, of course, will never happen.
"According to the letter, Benedict's resignation is said to be part of an arrangement with the Italian government to avoid the arrest of a sitting pope."

You may not think it absolute proof... until a trial neither do I... but there is certainly enough to require a full blown criminal investigation which again as I said will never happen.

Posted on 1 Jul 2013 13:45:56 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:42:06 BDT
Fell Free CAS, but none of your links that I have followed have been good evidence that Ratzinger himself was actually criminally involved as opposed to merely negligent or deceived.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:41:25 BDT
Which programme?

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:41:13 BDT
First link refers to the trial being run by Ratzinger's deputy

Second link, Says Ratzinger made a speech outlining Vatican position

Third link, From allvoices.com, cites a letter posted by ITCCS, which claims proven links but is not evidence of them.

I remain unconvinced as yet that Ratzinger, personally, committed crimes. So again, I support an investigation into the matter, there must be many criminals involved in the church hierarchy but I choose not to name names until I have reason to. So the unnamed deputy from the first source would go on my list.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:35:00 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:29:13 BDT
Last edited by the author on 1 Jul 2013 13:30:09 BDT
Bellatori says:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8587082.stm

http://www.remnantofgod.org/ratzinger-abuse.htm

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/14041403-child-sex-abuse-cover-up-alleged-in-pope-benedict-resignation
I particularly liked the bit

[EDIT] I found 74000 references, many the same, but the circumstantial evidence is sufficient to warrant a full blown investigation which, of course, will never happen.
"According to the letter, Benedict's resignation is said to be part of an arrangement with the Italian government to avoid the arrest of a sitting pope."

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:23:00 BDT
Link? I'm not aware of any specifically.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:18:09 BDT
Bellatori says:
His signature has been on some fairly dodgy pieces ...

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:08:23 BDT
CAS, it depends, where was the cover up performed? Was Ratzinger himself kept in the dark? I agree, all paperwork on all cases should be handed to the police, but whomever was covering it up would likely prevent a lot of that.

I won't condemn ratzinger for this without evidence. of direct crimes.

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