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How hard would it be to take over the UK?


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Initial post: 28 Jun 2013 16:03:40 BDT
I ask because I intend to.
Here are my steps to Dictatorship:

1/ Creat a facebook group and twitter thing all about how we are going to set up a political party and that I need some votes.

2/ Aim it at the younger generations, those who tend NOT to vote or who have never voted (the majority of the population I'm lead to believe)

3/ Incentivise voting (free chocolate bar/shot/pint if I get into power)

4/ Get an investor (we need a decent following at this point) and create innovative viral ads or 'political broadcasts' enlisting the help of Derren Brown.

5/ Bang on about immigration (tends to win over the tabloid readers)

6/ POWER IS MINE and I go back on all my promises, chuck the queen out using the army (my army hence why not called 'the royal army')

7/ Crush democracy, give myself the position of dictator of the UK.

8/ Sell Wales, or turn it into an open prison.

9/ Ban religion altogether.

10/ Force lazy people to work or send them to labour camps so they can do so at no cost to decent people.

11/ 5 year plans for economic growth.

and finally, give the power to the people, laws will be passed by the public through 'text voting'. Power will go to local authorities who will set their own budgets based on amounts set by my senior financial team (RECRUITING FOR THESE ROLES!!!)

Problem solved :)

Posted on 28 Jun 2013 16:10:35 BDT
And your fiscal policy?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jun 2013 16:22:14 BDT
TomC says:
my senior financial team (RECRUITING FOR THESE ROLES!!!)

I want one of those jobs. I will need to go on a well-funded 5 year fact-finding mission; somewhere like Bermuda sounds good. I will send back regular progress bulletins.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jun 2013 16:38:04 BDT
Last edited by the author on 28 Jun 2013 16:38:30 BDT
TomC says:
To address the question seriously: you would need to recruit and keep onside a sizeable proportion of the military. Massaging public opinion is all very well, but ultimately your ability to take and hold power would depend upon armed force.

There was a point in 1968 when this was seriously discussed by various right-wing sympathisers who felt that Wilson was too far to the left and needed to be ousted. Cecil King the newspaper magnate was one of the leaders, along with a few of the more barking conspiracy theorists of MI5; they even considered bringing Oswald Moseley back from Paris.

It fizzled out due to a marked lack of enthusiasm from Lord Mountbatten, the man whom they were hoping to recruit as their military figurehead. Without a credible show of armed strength it was never going to happen.

Posted on 28 Jun 2013 20:06:50 BDT
Have a word with Simon, he's a big fan of revolution to create a totalitarian state with five year plans.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jun 2013 20:50:51 BDT
Whooopps!....

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jun 2013 23:58:18 BDT
Simon says, <<Whoooops!>> Farted and followed through?

Or do you mean, you're not...anymore? Gone off the idea?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jun 2013 23:59:54 BDT
Is this your bedtime fantasy?

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jun 2013 00:52:09 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jun 2013 01:53:42 BDT
psn - "11/ 5 year plans for economic growth."

I'm a revisionist: I suggest 25 year plans for economic growth. It might leave time for a little real growth (setting aside the 1,000,000% inflation naturally).

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jun 2013 01:56:14 BDT
Simon - "Whooopps!.... "

Wasn't that meant to be "WHOOPEE!" ... ?

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jun 2013 02:06:07 BDT
psn - "Here are my steps to Dictatorship"

Have you thought about what happened to Danton and Robespierre?
And what about the International Crimes Against Humanity Commissions etc.?
I think Queenie's doing just fine, thanks, little help from Parliament!

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 11:40:22 BDT
"chuck the queen out using the army (my army hence why not called 'the royal army')"

HM Armed Forces ... Her Majesty's ;)
And good luck, you'll find squaddies to be a strangely loyal bunch.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 12:31:08 BDT
and of course they pledge allegiance to the monarch before country.

"for queen and country" , and in that order.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 13:40:48 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 15:46:13 BDT
Pipkin says:
Hi Pop,
First: on your list should have been to control the all the media, that delivers all of our daily brainwash.
Second: is to subdue the proletariat by drugging them and getting them addicted to substances which you can control.
Third: Invent a boggy man to keep the proletariat frightened, and give you the excuse to rob other countries for their resources.
Fourth: Keep the proles in debt so that they fear for the future of their children, and will do anything to keep their positions, even to stab others in the back..
Fifth: Embark on a campaign to prove that whatever ails them is the fault of the boggy men, and encourage hatred of them at every opportunity, in films, books and games... just to make sure you have an ever ready stream of psychotic recruits for your army and police force, which you will need in abundance to control the worker bees and sheep.
Ohh what am I saying.... we already have that?
Finally:
When the proles are past their sell by date and can no longer work in the factories etc., provide a lethal injection on the day of their retirement, so that you don't have to pay them the retirement pension they have paid all their lives, or better still make them suffer.... make them work longer and reduce their pensions, so that they have to resort to wearing all their clothes at once to keep warm and have to survive on bread and lard with the occasional cup of tea. Why should the fit and healthy have to support all these useless feeders?
Mx

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 17:47:19 BDT
Very factual post Margaret.

4/ Get an investor (we need a decent following at this point) and create innovative viral ads or 'political broadcasts'
This is critical (and virtually impossible) as serious fortunes large enough to influence political events are only amassed by those committed to the status quo.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 17:56:56 BDT
apache1 says:
most people don't realise it but its slowly happening

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 20:10:38 BDT
Pipkin says:
Thank you CW,
I was being facetious as you know. But I can see it not being far into the future when we are 'offered' this choice?
Things are going to become far worse, as they have un the US, and Greece etc.
The problem is that the for the last 20 years our young people have been distracted, diverted and hooked, onto TV Games, Drugs and Drink. The majority of them know absolutely nothing about what is happening out in the wide world. All they know is that the boggy man caused it?
M

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jul 2013 20:29:53 BDT
Pipkin says:
Hi Apache,
What do you mean ''it's slowly happening?''
Do you mean that people are becoming aware? Because I see no evidence of this. All I see and hear is media propaganda spouted.
I know of very few people who have ever looked at an alternative media view like RT and Aljazeera. That isn't to say that they tell it as it is, but they definitely have another slant on the news.
So what is happening?
Margaret.

Posted on 2 Jul 2013 09:32:41 BDT
RABB says:
Popcorn unfortunately the BNP have already tried a few of your points with little success.

You seem to be adopting a similar strategy to that of Hitler in the late 20s though, in which case my advice to you would be "rhetoric is everything"

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Jul 2013 20:10:20 BDT
Garscadden says:
All evidence (a large amount of research) seems to indicate that 'the young' (under 25, basically), are actually more political than most other generations. We have, for our sins, bred a very political younger generation. Indications are that they are fiscally conservative, but liberal in most other ways.

But then I suspect this isn't reported on conspiracy websites, so neither you nor Bradders will ever notice it. It will be interesting in 15 to 20 years or so when their views start to have a real effect.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Jul 2013 20:51:18 BDT
Wow!.....so many poorly worded generalisations in one post....Congrats!

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Jul 2013 22:32:16 BDT
Garscadden says:
Why thank....you!

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2013 04:35:46 BDT
Mon plaisure...
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