Money to banks?....more debt.....more idiocy.

Jeepers creepers (rubbish film) how mad can it get...?.....

Why does the government not give this money to the people directly?...why create more debts? Banks magic money anyway. Is Noddy in charge?

The tax-payer gave money to the banks to keep them afloat and the banks horde the cash, refusing to invest in the public. So the taxpayer gives the banks more money on the condition that the banks gove this money back to the tax-paying small business and labour-forces. Why give the money to the banks, then? Why not simply cut taxes? The money a business saves goes into the business not the banks. Because this plan is no more than a cash-boost for the banks, disguised as a means to invest in small business. The government is hoping to rescue the banks from the collapse of the euro but is smart enough to make the move by fooling the public into thinking it is giving the banks money to "invest in local business". Yeah, right...

Spin...how did tax payers give money to the banks?

Here here Simon, I'm all in favour of the government reducing the amount of the people's money it confiscates...and wastes.

The banks control politicians. They lie to the public for the votes they need, but bend over for the banks.

Goldman Sachs and the Federal reserve have ruined this nation.

Look at China? No american bankers in charge of anything. They tried, but were kept out.

Doing great.

Look at Germany today. With no american bankers running their show?

Doing great.

American owes more money to the Federal reserve than to China.

Who runs it? What do they build or make besides fake money for the USA?

Fact is : the richer some Jews became, the poorer the nations they live in because.

Germany was poor when Jews were rich in it.

Not anymore.

I'm half Jewish, and I'm shocked as to how scared you goyim are in stopping some of our greed.

Don't you get it? We can't stop it ourselves? We tried, didn't work.

You have to stop being scared of saying it loud.

When will you do something about it?

When we walk into ovens again?

STOP IT FOR OUR OWN GOOD AND YOURS.

Read God Stopping A Nuclear War for the real inside story.

Simon: The government gave the money to the banks, yes? Where do you think the governmnt gets its money? Government funds are the taxes you pay...The taxpayer bailed out the banks and now the taxpayer is giving them capital to stay afloat and operate as "banks". (If the banks wre not given money to lend, they would be no more than very large money-safes. The money the banks took from the taxpayer keeps them afloat but they to operte as banks they need the "liquidity" of finance. Investments may result in bad debts which the banks cannot afford. Why invest in a business during recession when it is going to fail? The taxpayers money is now going to be used to invest in businesses which, in times of recession, have no hope of succeeding and making profit... The government knows this, but simply wants to prop up the banks against the coming crisis...instead of using the banks current capital to invest in recession hit business, the government gives the banks a bit extra; money to waste...

It seems the Wests recession is affecting the East; India seems to sliding into recession...The future does not look good, folks. Prepare for severe social turmoil...

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Simon: "Extra" tax? What do you mean? I expect the tax I already pay to go towards the benefit, health and security of the nation, not that of the banks.

Nutter.

Hi Simon,
I normally have a lot of respect for what you write; but are you being serious????
Spin makes an extremely valid point, and you appear to be dismissing it. I have posted on the ''Any beleivers in the NWO.'' To prevent having to repeat myself, just have a look, and 'try' and understand! You are normally quite savvy....
Take careful note of what Bookman has written, and prepare for SEVERE social turmoil......... ''WE'' can't avoid it, because we are simply pawns in this game. Perhaps it is best to go into it with our eyes shut... who knows?
Margaret.

Hi M E

What I am questioning is the concept that the tax payers money bailed out the banks. If it was tax payers money why did our taxes not increase? Basic logic suggests that we were paying taxes for services etc...then the banks crashed and billions of tax payers money suddenly appeared? Surely the money to bail out the banks came from somewhere else?

Why don't we have a National Bank, that will lend to people, a bank for the people, non profit making, a bank that will give accounts to poor people, millions in this country can't get a bank account, so are basically excluded from society in many ways. This coalition has simply thrown taxpayers money away, the banks have shored up their balance sheets, continue to pay ridiculous bonuses, and perpetuated the very system that has brought the world almost to it's knees.

As regards the Eurozone areas that are being "bailed out", they are not, the banks are. It would probably be cheaper and much more effective to give these countries humanitarian aid, rather than throw it away, into the black hole and black world of banking and financial corporations.

Big and Small Business say they need more money to create growth, this is a total fallacy, we are seeing the pandemic of recession spread throughout the world, because there is an ever decreasing demand.
No-one so far has talked about increasing taxes, not just on the very wealthy, but on all those earning above average wage. I wonder what the effect of just 1-2p more on these earnings would have? It would have been a much better way of dealing with reducing deficits, but most people are just too greedy to accept this. They would rather others lost their jobs thinking they are immune from any effects of the recession. That is just stupid thinking. We need to tax more not less.

Simon, tax-payers have had their public services reduced dramatically, so that is how they have bailed out the banks. Not rocket science Simon.

Molly...why add "not rocket science Simon"?....

I'll answer that one Simon, because when you post you do so in a very patronising way, I'm surprised you didn't get that, perhaps some fish rich in omega 3 is in order.

We don't have a national bank for the same reason we don't have a government run electrical grid or water service and am afraid eventually a health and education service. Greed and a need to keep the masses under their thumb.

In Libya the banks did not charge interest and only borrowed money to businesses with potential and good track record thus giving the borrowers every chance to succeed.

"If it was tax payers money why did our taxes not increase? Basic logic suggests that we were paying taxes for services etc".

You said that the money came from somewhere else, i.e. not from the taxpayers, although you actually made the point that I said was not rocket science yourself, although to seem not to be able to understand your own logic? If the services that we receive are cut, but we are still paying the same amount in tax, then we instead are giving that money to the banks.

Key...apologies.

Hi Moll,
Well thought out posts as always. You can answer your own question as to why don't we have a National Bank? Because that would benefit the people....... God forbid!!!! :(
As you say, all the money; poured down the throats of the Self Agrandizing Bankers and Financiers; would have been better served in Humanitarian Aid.
But then again, I watched Hardtalk the other night, where the Ambassador of Sudan said that ''Humanitarian Convoys were being infiltrated by Black Ops to get into countries.'' Thus undermining the effectiveness. Which I would tend to believe because of similar situations I have read about in books written by ex Black Operatives.
p.s. All mail to Hague, being returned... Surprise surprise....
Regards
Mags.

Hi Mohamed,
Exactly right. Well said.
Regards
Mags

This government (like all govs) has put up taxes Gnomey.

I agree with you about this silly cheap loans scam, the banks have nothing to lose by making loans with this money to people whose businesses are not viable. Banks already lend to those with sound credit ratings and with viable propositions. The gov should cut taxes.

Taxes have in fact come down Beloved...check your facts...the increase in the personal threshold...I pay less tax...ooooppppsy...Beloved makes a boo boo!!!

What about VAT?