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Initial post: 21 Dec 2012 16:16:31 GMT
Someone recently told me that they didn't like Christmas because it was too commercialised. Isn't it capitalism that is commercialised? Don't they mean they don't like capitalism?

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Dec 2012 16:31:21 GMT
Last edited by the author on 21 Dec 2012 16:35:45 GMT
TomC says:
Here's an old favourite ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5IXlfJSEi4

"Christmas is something to take advantage of. A red and green bandwagon to jump on. A sentimental shot in the arm for sales. "

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Dec 2012 18:35:28 GMT
Last edited by the author on 21 Dec 2012 19:07:49 GMT
You are, of course, right. But our sentimentality about children, for example, is often used by those who wish to sell us something, or persuade us of something. Do we say: 'I don't like children. They're too commercialised'?

Posted on 21 Dec 2012 19:00:32 GMT
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Posted on 21 Dec 2012 19:03:53 GMT
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Posted on 21 Dec 2012 19:45:11 GMT
Last edited by the author on 21 Dec 2012 19:47:18 GMT
Spin says:
It is the western population that is commercialised, not Xmas. Upon the disappearance of religion, The 25th December will still remain as a day to celebrate materialism and capitalism.

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Dec 2012 20:01:16 GMT
gille liath says:
Yeah, I was hoping I could put it off till the sermon on Xmas Day...

Posted on 23 Dec 2012 14:43:56 GMT
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Posted on 23 Dec 2012 16:48:43 GMT
kraka says:
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POP, Says, "Life is better with Butterkist!

Is that why you chose Popcorn as a name?

It has been said *we become what we eat* what should i do if i hear you go POP?

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Dec 2012 16:52:33 GMT
kraka says:
If you consume popcorn in quantity it might pay you to invest in a popcorn maker and make your own.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Dec 2012 16:53:51 GMT
Just a quick festive message from my sponsor

Popcorn only pops once ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Dec 2012 19:54:05 GMT
gille liath says:
That's what I heard. ;)

Posted on 23 Dec 2012 20:16:08 GMT
J.Yasimoto says:
It's a shame that the Dickens Christmas ideal (idyll?) has been superseded by rampart commercialism, but to be honest, given the choice between receiving hundreds of pounds worth of the latest electronic gadgets, stuffing my face, getting overly-merry on obscure liqueurs, and getting a wooden hoop, an orange, a shiny new penny from old Mrs. Glover up the road for sweeping her chimney, I know what I would choose.

As Jim Royle once (maybe) said, "Goodwill to all men my arse".

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Dec 2012 21:24:34 GMT
"rampart commercialism"

I know that the upkeep on castles must be really high, but they're selliing the tops of the walls now?

Posted on 23 Dec 2012 21:39:04 GMT
monica says:
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Posted on 27 Dec 2012 18:35:45 GMT
Did everyone enjoy their commercialised popcorn Christmas?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Dec 2012 19:04:57 GMT
Spin says:
Mr Anthony: You are posting your question on a capitalist website. That is, you are posting the statement "Christmas is too commercialised" on a site run by one of the biggest commercial businesses in the world.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Dec 2012 10:54:40 GMT
Really! Well I don't suppose that everyone who reads it is a major shareholder. Perhaps I should write it on a lavatory wall!

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Dec 2012 15:02:30 GMT
make your own you commercialised lemming

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Dec 2012 17:59:00 GMT
Spin says:
Mr Anthony: my point was simply that you are employing commercialism to condemn commercialism. A logical inconsistency, that is all. =)

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Dec 2012 18:12:05 GMT
In the first place I was not condemning commercialism I was questioning it.

And in the second: I don't really know where you learnt logic, but such an inconsistencey consists in maintaining two or more contradictory statements as true. The idea, for example, of fighting fire with fire is obviously not a logical contradiction. Which two propositions have I claimed to be true which contradict each other?

Moreover in what sense am I 'employing commercialism'? By writing in a forum that is run by a commercial business? If I wrote a book condemning commercialism and got it published by a successful publisher (I'm not sure how else I might get it published) is this a logical contradiction?
But then my pen or computer was made by capitalists! And the food I eat! What a hypocrite I am to eat!

Posted on 28 Dec 2012 18:18:13 GMT
Actually my original point was to question the logic of blaming christmas for commercialism rather than the system in which it is located. I could say the same about writing and forums.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Dec 2012 18:44:06 GMT
Last edited by the author on 28 Dec 2012 19:52:35 GMT
Spin says:
MR Anthony; I hold two degrees in Philosophy. Formal logic is a subject I am more than familiar with. And even if you are only "questioning" commercialism, you are employing a commercial aspect of communication to express that question. So your use of this media should answer your question. If, on the other hand, you are questioning the actual belief system behind the commercialism( that is, if you are questioning capitalism or christianity) then your use of a commercial media is justified as it provides a means to express, discuss, deny or confirm a statement. And do not take my point so seriously, by the way. I was only making an observation. =)

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Dec 2012 20:18:11 GMT
I didn't mean to take you too seriously, I've noticed the rather satirical nature of your posts, and I do quite like them. I understand that you were just indicating the irony of it. But I can only reply to what you said, not what I hope you mean. Sorry to sound so pedantic, force of habit.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Dec 2012 20:23:36 GMT
Spin says:
Mr: No, my aplogies. It is difficult to communicate in the written word. A tatement meant to be humourous will come across as accusative on the screen. Such is fault of the social media; one reads the words but one cannot see the facial and bodily expressions that constitute communication. Hence the invention of the "smiley face" =)
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