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The loss of disciplne and respect...is it deliberate?


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Initial post: 2 May 2014 09:47:23 BDT
Last edited by the author on 2 May 2014 09:48:53 BDT
In our experience many people seem to have less respect for laws and regulations. They also seem to lack discipline. Is this an example of 'social engineering' by socialists?

Posted on 2 May 2014 09:53:38 BDT
No.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 10:10:10 BDT
eric rambler says:
Do they?

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 12:53:42 BDT
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TomC says:
I blame an excess of alternative therapies, vitamin pills and dietary supplements myself. There are some really dodgy shops around - you never know what you're buying.

Posted on 2 May 2014 16:57:02 BDT
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Posted on 2 May 2014 16:59:42 BDT
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Posted on 2 May 2014 17:19:25 BDT
I think much of this is the outcome of the Computer Age and Internet access:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/05/is-facebook-making-us-lonely/308930/
(2012) IS SOCIAL MEDIA MAKING US LONELY?
"Social media-from Facebook to Twitter-have made us more densely networked than ever. Yet for all this connectivity, new research suggests that we have never been lonelier (or more narcissistic)-and that this loneliness is making us mentally and physically ill. A report on what the epidemic of loneliness is doing to our souls and our society."

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704025304575284981644790098
(2010) IS THE INTERNET MAKING US DUMBER?
"Today, the Internet grants us easy access to unprecedented amounts of information. But a growing body of scientific evidence suggests that the Net, with its constant distractions and interruptions, is also turning us into scattered and superficial thinkers."

Fewer face-to-face social skills, makes for "lonely but narcissistic" friends-of-everyone, and even "psychotic and sadistic" toxic trolls. And as the Internet makes us "scattered and superficial thinkers," everything from problem-solving to respect and responsibility suffers.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 18:16:06 BDT
<<our>>, is that 'your' experience?

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 18:21:14 BDT
<<Many people>> how many?

Posted on 2 May 2014 18:24:55 BDT
<<Seem to have>>...perhaps that's because you're influenced by what you <<seem>> to see in the Daily Mail, Express, Sun and so called telly news.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 18:27:24 BDT
Last edited by the author on 2 May 2014 18:53:49 BDT
What's <<'social engineering'>>?

What's your definition of <<socialists>> and how do they do their <<'social engineering'>> in UKey?

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 18:38:08 BDT
Last edited by the author on 2 May 2014 18:51:33 BDT
<<Seem to lack discipline>>, perhaps you need to wear specs old boy.

Road traffic laws for example, would you say that UKey folk <<seem>> to have less respect for them (than when)? I drove 80 miles along the M1 and North Circular today, and eyes peeled, I didn't <<seem>> to see anything but respect for the laws and rules of the road...apart form a minority of drivers doing over 70 on the motorway, but that's been so for the 46 years I've been driving, in my experience of course, I have no stats to support this.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 19:43:52 BDT
Correct use of personal pronouns is vital for personal evolution.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 19:44:29 BDT
15.76784500930493847464%...approximately.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 20:29:03 BDT
Last edited by the author on 2 May 2014 21:23:21 BDT
Thank you for clarifying that you *were* referring to the Gomsless Ones and not folk in general.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 20:30:27 BDT
Last edited by the author on 2 May 2014 20:51:09 BDT
All from Newhaven?

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 20:46:29 BDT
<<personal evolution>> you did it all off your own bat, maybe this is the only way...personal not societal.

There was not much <<personal evolution>> evident back in the USSR, it was discouraged as being revisionist and anti-revolutionary. Those displaying tendencies were diagnosed mentally ill and discouraged with extreme prejudice in the psikhushka.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 20:50:44 BDT
Anita says:
Now - where you learned this word - psikhushka? :)

Completely correct, but I would have never expected someone here knowing it...

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 20:50:52 BDT
Personal evolution "is" personal...no one knows that gomsy is on the path to a unified self...act the role.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 20:52:40 BDT
Wikidiki.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 21:01:27 BDT
That reads OK, but the Gomsies do self-proclaim they are on the path to personal evolution on this forum regularly.

Now then, for the Gomies to get on 'the path' they had to stop sleepwalking, how did they do that?

If the Gomsies can do it, why not all those litter louts and fatties the Gomsies keep going on about?

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 21:06:51 BDT
Good point...a question to test the mind...thanks.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2014 22:25:30 BDT
Ian says:
Claims of information overload, reduced attention span, lack or interpersonal skills, etc. have all been aimed at paperback books in the 19th Century (and again when they were revived in the mid 20th) and the printing press in the 15th Century.

Phrases like "Today, cheap printed books grant us easy access to unprecedented amounts of information..." were bandied about with as little evidence of harm as you can provide.

It's funny that the same people who now try to blame all society's ills on the internet and computers defend printed matter as important and educational.

You may well be a psychotic and sadistic toxic troll, and/or lonely and narcissistic, and you're certainly a scattered and superficial thinker; but don't blame the internet for your condition, accept responsibility for your own choices.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 May 2014 08:41:53 BDT
More a result of a triumvirate of greed, ego and arrogance. This is why Londoners are the least polite people in Britain.

Posted on 4 May 2014 08:45:23 BDT
Last edited by the author on 4 May 2014 08:45:42 BDT
And since the bigoted Mad Maz thinks gay people are part of an Organised Global Conspiracy (TM) and advocates imprisoning them, there plainly is no link between religiosity and empathy, in case anyone feels like suggesting otherwise.
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