More 'justice' ?

So Amanda Knox and her then boyfriend have been cleared of murdering Meredith Kercher (sp?). I don't think this is remotely right nor just.

The DNA evidence being disputed due to the minimal amounts available not allowing a re-test - however wiping down or washing a blade will remove most forensics so that's hardly a surprise. The evidence was there.

But more than that how can you find someone innocent who changed their story so many times ? Surely an innocent person would have one story, being the truth, that they stuck to.
Not; I was there, I was in a different room, I was somewhere else then I wasn't there at all.
She said originally that she was in a different room with her hands over her ears as Meredith was murdered, and now she stated that she wasn't even in the flat ? Bit of a confusion to make in a murder enquiry.

Funny she also tries to claim to not being a drunken slapper when there have been plenty of statements and internet evidence proving her to be just that.

Both previous showing her to be a blatant liar.

And what kind of person would make out with their boyfriend when the murdered body of their 'friend' has just been discovered ? Trauma my ass.

Then there's the small time drug dealer who admitted his part and got 30 years, his statement implicated Knox and her boyfriend in the crime. Yet seemingly to no avail as they are out of knick and he's still inside - what would a man who's been found guilty have to gain from telling the story of who was involved and in what way ? He'd still be in jail.

I watched the footage from the court last night as it was happening, and I have to say that is some Grade A acting on her part. Her ex turned up to court relatively well turned out, she turns up with no make up, plain baggy clothes, breathing through her mouth with the 'worried' look on her brow occassionally breaking for a serious furrow to be met by a pat on the back.
She could have made an effort to look smart for her life-changing court appearance, but that wouldn't play so well on the cameras. Good job at coming across as the poor misunderstood, innocent, vulnerable 'good' girl.

Maybe Hilary Clinton's involvement in the case had a helping hand at getting her off the hook. America doesn't let its citizens get sent down overseas - even when the person is guilty they appeal to serve their sentence back in the US. Plus it wouldn't do good for international relations - Italy weakly bowing to American pressure.

And of course being the fine upstanding young woman she is, I'm SURE Knox will turn down those multi-million movie deals, television appearances, magazines stories ....

At the end of the day there are 4, perhaps 5, people who know the truth of what happened. 1 is dead, 1 is a pathological liar, 1 is a weak willed man, 1 is in jail and the other I have no idea what happened to. (This being the man that Amanda Knox said murdered Meredith while she covered her ears - name begins with an L but can't remember it)

I personally don't feel any form of justice has been carried out in the case; there was enough to find them guilty 2 years ago and nothing new has come to light since then. My sympathies go out to Meredith's family as the killer(s) walk free.

W.A.E.

You say: 'Funny she also tries to claim to not being a drunken slapper when there have been plenty of statements and internet evidence proving her to be just that.'

The United States of America was founded on the political principles of the French Revolution, i.e. Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite etc. However its legal system was modelled on the British one, namely that conviction in a court case relies on evidence, not the character of the accused. It could well be that diplomatic channels were used by the US to emphasise to the Italian authorities that they would expect such standards to be applied for their citizens.

There is an old film produced and introduced by Alfred Hitchcock, and starring a very young Brigitte Bardot, where Hitchcock illustrates these differing principles with the story of a good-time girl in France who runs around with the local boys, and who is then charged with murder, and how the prosecution's case relies on its portrayal of her as a 'bad' woman.

Incidentally, I studied American political history at 'A' level. Our teacher visited the United States, went round all the historic sites and sent the class a postcard, whereas we all went on a trip to The American Museum in Britain (which is on the outskirts of Bath), which was very good and a lot cheaper for our parents!

Regards.

Caroline

The point was not that she's a party animal or a tart - the point was that there is evidence of her being so, she point blank claims not to be so and is therefore a liar. And the word of a liar is not worth very much, especially not in a court.

That must have been an interesting trip for your teacher, despite the cost still a shame that you had to settle for a museum visit, but I guess the same things are still available there.
I did politics at A Level also, but it focused mainly on British politics from about 1900 onwards which I found to be rather dry - thousands of years of history and politics and yet while I was at school lessons always seemed to focus on the same time period (and there wasn't much in the lines of day trips either lol)

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Then it's an even worse indictment of the Italian legal system if they actually falsified evidence to get a conviction.

In that case I mean the constitution.

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What do you mean falsified evidence ?
It wouldn't surprise me if the Italian police came out and said that they were not looking for any other suspects for the murder. Which pretty much equals 'she's guilty, we just can't prove it now'.

I'm always made very uneasy by apparently blatant miscarriages of justice -- either way. Does anyone seriously think this woman (and the boyfriend she seems keen to drop in it) wasn't involved with what went on? Meanwhile, for a change, the black guy is left carrying the can. There's just too much money floating around in this case for anyone to have any confidence that justice is going to be done. I mean, I'm all for drink, drugs and perverted sex, but actually killing someone is taking things a bit far, and then weaseling out of responsibility for it is even worse.

"the black guy is left carrying the can."

I had thought of that. I can't imagine it will do race relations any good - the black man sent to jail, the rich white girl gets let off.

They have one person convicted and jailed for the murder, so that's all that needs to be done. Why should they care too much about sending anyone else down when they have their killer - case closed and 22,000 euro in the bank.

Unfortunately, I agree with the appeal decision, not because I think this couple are innocent, but for the fact that the Italian Criminal system bodged the whole thing. I don't agree in the statement they are innocent, too many unanswered questions. It seems it will now be almost impossible, unless a confession comes about some day, perhaps in a drunken stupor, or in a fit of remorse, to ever gain the evidence required to convict. I think in this case, the appeal I mean, Scotland has the ideal conclusion or verdict, as simply, "not proven"?

There is no Justice, just us.

and them?

I am astonished that a gulible public and I presume jury fell for the utter nonsensical claims made in court by the prosecution and subsequently repeated without question in salacious detail by the press off the world. But what a wonderful story it makes. We have forced sex, drugs, perversion and of course, murder. Every detail of Amanda Knox life has been investigated and all sorts of unfound conclusions dawn.

So of course because she is sexually active she is therefore a slut, if she has been known to take drugs then of course she will tend toward uncontrolled urges that "normal" women do not have. The black widow story over again.

Anybody who believed for a moment that she was guilty and not stiched up by a corrupt police service anxious to gain a conviction once they had made an arrest needs to take a long look at themselves and their attitudes towards women. Same old story once again.

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That's a bit of a rant-ette really, and not much to do with the actual case!

Yes, of course the gutter press had a field day: that's par for the course but you have to try to see past all that.

The idea that whenever a Brit or American is arrested or convicted for any offence abroad, it must be a case of "foreign police corruption" is such a crock. Sheer ignorant chauvinism.

It's irrelevant to me whether this crowd were taking drugs and/or doing weird bedroomy things: the only "attitude towards women" that matters here is disapproving of them being hacked to death.

As it is, we have four people more or less living together and self-confessedly being around when one of them was murdered, one poor black guy already serving a 16-stretch, and two rich white kids let off. Now, I don't *know* who did what, but Stevie Wonder could see that (to put it at its most generous) Knox hasn't told all she knows, and the fact that she changed her already unconvincing story so many times doesn't exactly give confidence that justice has been done.

The "same old story" here is that it's almost impossible to get a conviction against anyone with a very expensive lawyer, especially if they're white, American, and vaguely alluring.

I think we need to take a look at our own justice system before we start criticising the foreigners. Raul Moat's alleged accomplice received a sentence of 40 years, despite the fact that he never shot anyone. The man found guilty of killing 270 people, at Lockerbie, walks free after 8 years.