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"You just don't invade another country on phony pretext in order to assert your interests," John Kerry


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Initial post: 4 Mar 2014 11:24:24 GMT
.....uh.....Afghanistan....um.....Iraq????.. has John boy forgotten that his beloved USA lurves to invade other countries....?????

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2014 11:42:07 GMT
Spin says:
Gomsy: Indeed. I have to laugh when I hear the US and the UK proclaiming on the immorality and political dangers of invading other independent, sovereign nations. =) Indeed, I think the US and UK realise this, which is why Putin knows he can do what he wants without any repercussions from the west.. Europe and the US are battle-weary and morally bankrupt.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2014 11:46:12 GMT
Ghostgrey51 says:
Yep...
caveat...
Ah but big nations have to consider the 'bigger' picture.
Trouble with the USA govts is they do have to make such a fuss about getting there and these days they end up choosing places far away.(Back in the early 20th century they stuck to South America)
Now all Russia & China have to do is sneak across the land borders.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2014 12:03:45 GMT
Last edited by the author on 5 Mar 2014 08:01:32 GMT
"You just don't invade another country on phony pretext in order to assert your interests," - John Kerry

These hypocritical words illustrate my central point about the desperation of today's Western Political Class perfectly.

For some fifty/sixty years they've mismanaged the societies they've controlled. By propaganda, financial incentive and the application of State pressure, they've attempted to defy every rule of basic civilised life. Greed has become good. Perversion/fornication has been encouraged. The unborn have been massacred on an industrial scale. Marriage and family values had been derided/ridiculed. The economy has been plundered, asset stripped and bankrupted.

Today the West stands at the brink of a social collapse that will make the USSR's collapse look well managed. All our leaders have left is a highly patriotic military machine which, although predominantly controlled by a Military Elite that regards everything Liberalism stands for with contempt; is still fully prepared to fight/die for what they believe are their people/societies best interests.

'Liberals' like Obama, Kerry and Cameron intend to use this still immensely powerful military machine to rob our neighbours; with the loot (Iranian oil, Afghan copper/lithium, Ukrainian agricultural produce etc...) to prop up their failed liberal 'paradise' under the guise of creating a One World Government. Our neighbours (China, Russia and the Islamic World) want none of this 'New World Order', realising that it's simply a newer version of the same tyranny Orwell warned of and Stalin/Hitler tried to establish.

When Obama tried to start WWIII in Syria the American Military (Led by the genuinely heroic Gen. Petraeus) refused to attack yet another innocent target. Since then Obama has purged the US Military as severely as Stalin purged his in the 1930s.

Will his newly appointed place-men be prepared to start a nuclear WWIII for him in Ukraine?

If they do, will they be competent enough to win?

Or will they prove as inept as Stalin's puppet commanders later showed themselves, when facing the Barbarossa blitzkrieg?

Quote:-

The Marine's Prayer: (excerpt from Warrior Culture of the U.S. Marines, copyright 2001 Marion F. Sturkey)

Regardless of the situation, the Marine Corps has an answer for almost everything.

Contact with The Deity is serious business. It is also an excellent idea for Warriors who are expected to put their lives on the line against an assortment of foes. For U.S. Marines of any faith who may desire guidance when contacting their Maker, the Marine Corps has a ready aid, The Marine's Prayer:


Almighty Father, whose command is over all and whose love never fails, make me aware of Thy presence and obedient to Thy will. Keep me true to my best self, guarding me against dishonesty in purpose and deed and helping me to live so that I can face my fellow Marines, my loved ones, and Thee without shame or fear. Protect my family.

Give me the will to do the work of a Marine and to accept my share of responsibilities with vigor and enthusiasm. Grant me the courage to be proficient in my daily performance. Keep me loyal and faithful to my superiors and to the duties my Country and the Marine Corps have entrusted to me. Help me to wear my uniform with dignity, and let it remind me daily of the traditions which I must uphold.

If I am inclined to doubt, steady my faith; if I am tempted, make me strong to resist; if I should miss the mark, give me courage to try again.

Guide me with the light of truth and grant me wisdom by which I may understand the answer to my prayer.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2014 12:06:08 GMT
Bearman says:
so much tripe and so little time........

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2014 13:01:09 GMT
Well said the Gomsy.

$6 trillion and ten years on wars that blew these countries to bits and killed and maimed 1m people...perhaps he didn't notice.

Posted on 4 Mar 2014 17:29:57 GMT
Last edited by the author on 4 Mar 2014 17:52:49 GMT
John Kerry is an elitist who does Bilderberg's bidding. So when he says "your", he's obviously not speaking about himself with "our" Elitist Agenda.

http://devtest.infowars.com/report-mid-east-war-on-bilderberg-2013-agenda/
JOHN KERRY AND BILDERBERG 2013 AGENDA: IRAN AND SYRIA ALREADY TARGETED
"It doesn't matter if it's true or not, when Bennie boy gets mad about anything, it is directed at Iran and adds to the potential for war," Vernon Jordan reportedly said, adding, "The more Bennie Boy gets mad at Iran, the better the chances for a really big Mideast war." Jordan's fellow attendee responded, "The bigger the war, the better the chances of establishing a global banking system to finance such ventures."

"The conversation took place during a meeting in London on February 25, 2013, and was reportedly overheard by a source, "who travels extensively and regularly attends gatherings hosted by the country's top elites."

"US Secretary of State John Kerry also weighed in, responding to concerns that there had been no boots on the ground and no direct US or NATO military intervention in Syria by remarking, "we can fix that." On the same day, Kerry gave a news conference in London asserting that Syrian rebels would not be left, "dangling in the wind wondering where the support is or if it's coming."

"The issue of regime change in Syria was also on the agenda during last year's (2012) conference, which was attended by Syrian National Transitional Council head Bassma Kodmani."

John Kerry is married to an heiress, and is a regular attendee at Bilderberg's annual June meetings. He became Secretary of State in early 2013. And, obviously, his Elitist Agenda was already "set."

Posted on 4 Mar 2014 17:44:54 GMT
Last edited by the author on 4 Mar 2014 17:56:18 GMT
http://maplight.org/content/73331
(Sept. 2013) U.S. SENATORS VOTING "YES" ON INVADING SYRIA, RECEIVED 83% MORE MONEY FROM DEFENSE INDUSTRY

http://www.projectcensored.org/14-congress-invested-in-defense-contracts/
(2008) CONGRESSMEN HEAVILY INVESTED IN DEFENSE INDUSTRY
"Lawmakers with the most money invested in companies with DoD contracts include Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass), with up to $38,209,020."

"Forty-seven members of Congress (or 9 percent of all members of the House and Senate) in 2006 were invested in companies that are primarily in the defense sector. The average share price of these corporations today is nearly twice what it was in 2004. Lawmakers' investments in these contracting firms yielded them between $15.8 million and $62 million in income between 2004 and 2006, through dividends, capital gains, royalties and interest, the Center found."

So forget all those emotional appeals in the U.S. lamestream media to get involved in yet another no-win, foreign civil war. This is really about Washington DC power-brokers just getting richer - and the U.S. taxpayers once again just getting the bills and the body-bags.

Posted on 5 Mar 2014 14:26:54 GMT
Thanks Marilyn, very illuminating facts.

Posted on 7 Mar 2014 13:24:24 GMT
William -

You are most welcome.

Posted on 9 Mar 2014 18:55:18 GMT
Charlieost says:
De man with de Father Ted hair, he say yes, (celebrations all round). One could not make up the crap that spills from that mans mouth. Unbelievable, (though unfortunately, not really).

America. Land of the fee, home of the slave. And they wonder why we don't like them very much?

Doh !!!

Posted on 11 Mar 2014 20:25:19 GMT
Mad Maz,

As you're a woman who's politically somewhere to the right of Benito Mussolini, you should know that William is an avowed communist with a lot of opinions on the greatness of old Joe Stalin.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Mar 2014 20:34:22 GMT
 says:
On the other hand, in the early 1930s Stalin recriminalised male homosexuality.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Mar 2014 12:51:19 GMT
Demonstrating that William and Marilyn have loads in common?

Posted on 15 Mar 2014 15:19:24 GMT
The U.S. continues with their inept no-diplomacy-just-sanctions approach to the Ukraine, when the real "experts" have said that Russia will never abandon or be coaxed out of Crimea with the Russian Navy in the Black Sea.

So tomorrow is a key date. On March 16th, Crimea will vote on a referendum, so expect a flurry of moves and counter-moves on Monday - if not after the vote is tallied late on the 16th.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Apr 2014 11:57:38 BDT
Hey Ryan, hi, you're still the same old stopped clock then? Try addressing the issue for once, rather than just opposing whatever someone you don't like says. That way, I'm doing your thinking for you, I say X, so you say not-X.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2014 15:40:29 BDT
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Posted on 19 Apr 2014 22:24:27 BDT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2014 00:11:34 BDT
Russian roulette on a global scale!

Posted on 20 Apr 2014 00:16:29 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Apr 2014 01:17:22 BDT
Spin says:
War is the great resolver of issues. The west wants a major war, a war that builds the economy, but cannot afford it because mobile phones, games consoles, facebook and russian gas supplies are of more importance than the defence of the realm....If you are content, why rock the boat?...

Posted on 26 Apr 2014 08:53:18 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 Apr 2014 08:59:41 BDT
Billy,

Mad Maz also believes in a global conspiracy of gay people to control the media and everyone's personal life, right down to the guy who mucks out the lavvies in Kidderminster, has been kicked off the US Amazon forum for similar nonsense, and regularly endorses far-right propaganda networks with ties to the KKK. Then we have the far-right fundamentalist hatespew she comes out with on an almost daily basis on the religion form. She's a few klansmen short of a lynching mob.

Now, we all know responding to the facts isn't exactly your forte, but if you don't wish to appear more gullible than usual, you might want to consider taking them on board.

"Try addressing the issue for once, rather than just opposing whatever someone you don't like says"

How embarrassing that comment must be for you, in light of the above. And, for the record, no one who keeps on denying Stalinist atrocities (and writes Amazon reviews FOR THEIR OWN WORK) has the moral authority to lecture anyone, anywhere, on anything.
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