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Initial post: 23 Mar 2013 18:27:55 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 18:36:05 GMT
David Groom says:
Simon DHB,

They don't, so that's the end of that debate!

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 19:10:36 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 19:59:59 GMT
David Groom says:
Simon DHB,

'No....of course not....last time I was in court I saw some people in a 'witness' box....however Groomy knows best.'

Wake up, the clue is in your use of the word 'rely'. They don't 'rely' on witnesses. They rely on a whole lot of factors and eye witness accounts are just part of the evidence. Do I really have to spell out the obvious?

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 20:33:09 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 20:51:18 GMT
Now then, now then...behave...or you could be called a troll.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 20:52:38 GMT
What do you mean by <<if we see nothing>>?

And is it 'true'?

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 20:54:33 GMT
Were they presenting forensic evidence?

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 20:55:35 GMT
kraka says:
Simon "THE FOUNT" Boyd

Simon, ease up there lad, David is part of the flow.

Bumpty bump...........all wrong, not flowing

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 20:56:34 GMT
Howzabout several people witness the crime and all give accounts in the box of what they saw which are close enough to remove reasonable doubt?

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 20:58:21 GMT
Howzabout, I 'witness' the crime and just happen to have me trusty iPhone to hand, as you do, and I recorded it?

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 20:59:16 GMT
He gets like this at the weekend.

Posted on 23 Mar 2013 21:01:04 GMT
And it's close to his bye byes time...he's getting ratty.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 21:02:24 GMT
Do the courts 'rely' on witnesses exclusively?

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Mar 2013 21:25:13 GMT
Steady...take a cold bath...and relax in it.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2013 02:39:04 GMT
kraka says:
Gordon Bennett,

I expect after a week of serving customers and contributing to the nation's economy and the unemployed Simon (bless) is all knackered out and irritable come the weekend. Dustcarts are enough to stress anyone out.
Ooooooooooops, Shush, am i allowed to mention............. DUSTCARTS.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2013 06:27:15 GMT
Dearest Beloved...the founts own experience of both negative and positive hallucination using Ericksonian hypnosis is NOT just evidence, it is powerful proof...the brain sees, NOT the eyes...go and watch a close up magician and then you will know your brain is the master organ for your understanding.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2013 08:24:39 GMT
You said <<sees>>, never mentioned <<eyes>> until this.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2013 08:40:49 GMT
Simon 'last time I was in court I saw some people in a 'witness' box....'

How did you see people in the witness box if we see nothing?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2013 08:54:54 GMT
Simon: The brain does not see and nor do the eyes. It is human beings (and other animals endowed with vision) who see.

To evoke illusions to demonstrate that we don't 'really' see is a complete misunderstanding. A misunderstanding which any reasonable first-year philosophy or epistemology student would be able to clear up. We see by means of the eyes. That we are also capable of being fooled no more goes to show that we do not really see than the fact that we can be made to miscalculate shows that we cannot usually calculate, or that we can be made dizzy shows that we don't really have balance.

The very possibility of misperceiving depends upon correct perception (otherwise we would never be able to correct it) just as the very possibility of mistakes depends upon getting it right sometimes, for similar reasons. Try studying the area you wish to pontificate on instead of your own navel.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2013 09:05:22 GMT
Tony...how little you know! The 'eyes' take in light, then the visual centre in the brain creates the image. Watch the PBS program about How the Brain Works to update your childlike belief system.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2013 09:05:52 GMT
Note ''!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2013 09:19:40 GMT
Ian says:
He would have to rely on his eyes to watch that program, so how could he trust it?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2013 09:21:25 GMT
Ian says:
So because you've experienced hallucinations (your brain making stuff up and convincing itself that the eyes are to blame for seeing nonsense which isn't there); you take this as evidence that your eyes are faulty?

Sorry, not evidence; PROOF? Your brain making stuff up is PROOF of faulty eyes?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2013 09:31:32 GMT
God this is sad...however it displays the low level knowledge people have about their own being....
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