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Do those who 'govern' understand the word education and its true meaning?

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Initial post: 11 Jun 2013 17:51:06 BDT its current form = brainwashing...we 'tell the children what to believe and what thoughts to have....

Real education = creating a superior human....that's it...

Posted on 11 Jun 2013 18:12:13 BDT
The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie has a good definition of education, but I can't remember what it is. Something about bringing the person out.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2013 18:15:39 BDT
Spin says:
Simon: No wonder our kids are screwed up; idiots messing with their education... As of these guys know anything about "education". Trust me, in ten years time the results of this new faulty educational system will be apparent. Idiots dictating education..Jeez..

Posted on 11 Jun 2013 18:17:23 BDT
Spin says:
Now even our kids are a product of commercialism and politics. Shame on you for allowing that.

Posted on 11 Jun 2013 18:43:18 BDT
shakespier says:
Since politicians (M.P's) are verbally bankrupt anyway, I fail to see what valuable contribution they could possibly make to the field of education. Prime ministers past and present are/were surrounded by advisors, speech writers and spin doctors. Remember the phrase "..we have 24 hours to save the N.H.S..", Blair said it.. he didn't write it. Remember "U turn if you want" Thatcher said it, she didn't write it. We should remind ourselves that these infamous speeches were the result of hours, days, of professional coaching (and watching themselves in a mirror). Enoch Powell was probably the only politician who could be deemed capable of resolving the present education fiasco. (And no, you don't have to love or hate him in order to concur).

Posted on 12 Jun 2013 16:08:34 BDT
Spin says:
Gove and his loose collective of fellow Tories going under the misnomer "The Government" are the LAST people I would consult as to the education of our youth.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jun 2013 16:21:50 BDT
Yes, bringing out what's there, not stuffing stuff in.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jun 2013 16:27:38 BDT
I'm not sure about that, they pick up some bizarre ideas. My history teacher gave us some background information including dates of key events in the period we were studying. The trend at the time was to move away from too many dates, but in his opinion you needed a timeframe. Then a certain analysis of what happened and why. Something like that anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jun 2013 16:33:40 BDT
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Another famous schooling book (fiction again), or maybe a film first, was Goodbye Mr Chips. It reminds me of when I left primary school and the headteacher was retiring that year to become a lay preacher. He gave a speech in assembly, after which three of us pupils who were going off to Grammar schools decided to say a personal thank you to him for everything he'd done for us.

We knocked on the office door and went in and said our little spiel, then realised he was crying. So of course we had to shuffle out again in embarrassment. He died only a couple of years later so maybe he knew he had a serious illness but didn't want to upset us children by dying in service. A similar attitude is expressed by the book To Serve Them All My Days, long ago a tv series.

I wouldn't think the current methods of retaining teachers encourage this mentality of lifelong vocation.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jun 2013 16:58:43 BDT
Not my views, but what Jean Brodie (Muriel Spark) said to her headmistress (bringing out what's already there) who replied that she believed education was at least in part about putting something in.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jun 2013 19:35:44 BDT

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jun 2013 22:09:06 BDT
SilverSurfer says:
C.E. Statham what a lovely story, and I have seen Goodbye Mr. Chips several times, and how true your last comments rings in todays society......

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jun 2013 22:14:59 BDT
Thank you for that comment. To be honest the school was a little austere, and in a way it was a relief to get into the more relaxed attitude of the secondary school, however the teachers were no less committed to their roles.

Posted on 15 Jun 2013 23:25:01 BDT
Education is for wimps.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jun 2013 09:19:57 BDT

Interesting. Please explain your reasons for saying this?
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