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Initial post: 12 May 2012 15:45:28 BDT
What high order abstraction explains the concept of the UK at a semantic level? Does it matter?

Posted on 12 May 2012 19:38:06 BDT
Last edited by the author on 12 May 2012 19:41:46 BDT
gille liath says:
To future historians our culture will be known as the Barbecue Civilisation (if they count it as a civilisation).

'And they would congregate regularly in these "back gardens", to light a ritual charcoal fire and on it burn their offerings of processed pork products. To make sure the neighbours knew they were fulfilling their ritual duties, they would loudly play mysterious music, the name of which has come down to us only as a code signal: "ABBA".'

Posted on 12 May 2012 19:49:48 BDT
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J.Yasimoto says:
Assuming there is intelligent life on Earth in millennia to come, what worries me is our legacy is the sixth (Holocene) great extinction. Back to the original question, the "UK" itself is a high order abstraction. "Does it matter?" Certainly not!

In reply to an earlier post on 12 May 2012 20:00:59 BDT
Last edited by the author on 12 May 2012 20:01:30 BDT
gille liath says:
On the contrary, the UK is a very definite political entity. And we're definitely a society, because any group of people living together is a society. Whether we still have anything that can be identified as a culture, other than barbecues, I'm not so sure.

Do you ever watch ITV3? 'As British a pastime', say their online bingo sponsors, 'as a day out shopping'. That's what they could come up with as a typical British pastime: shopping.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 May 2012 20:13:21 BDT
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Posted on 12 May 2012 20:21:27 BDT
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J.Yasimoto says:
"On the contrary, the UK is a very definite political entity."

Indeed. Until you start looking at it closely. The United Kingdom - Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What is "Great Britain"? England, Scotland and Wales. What is England? The people? the constitution? The deeper you look, the woolier (is that a word?) it gets.

But what about the code signal "ABBA". I've seen the first "B" flipped on the vertical. What's that all about? A code within a code? We should be told...

In reply to an earlier post on 12 May 2012 21:43:48 BDT
J.Y writes wisely...

In reply to an earlier post on 12 May 2012 23:54:59 BDT
Tom C says:
"But what about the code signal "ABBA". I've seen the first "B" flipped on the vertical. What's that all about?"

Presumably it is supposed to perfect the palindrome, by making it both a textual and a graphic one.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 May 2012 19:35:58 BDT
Last edited by the author on 13 May 2012 19:37:42 BDT
gille liath says:
I think it may be in reverence for Ikea, who is believed to have been the Goddess of (Scandinavian) domestic symmetry.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 May 2012 19:36:54 BDT
gille liath says:
"The deeper you look, the woolier (is that a word?) it gets."

If you say so, mate. After all, they tell me that if you think about it for long enough you start to doubt your own existence.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 May 2012 21:23:25 BDT
This question could apply to any country.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2012 06:57:25 BDT
Last edited by the author on 14 May 2012 06:58:11 BDT
J.Yasimoto says:
Yikes! - don't tell Descartes.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2012 19:33:00 BDT
gille liath says:
Oh, Rrrrennee!
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